Has any AFC team dramatically improved enough to make them the favorites?

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  1. patfanken

    patfanken Banned

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    God Who knows, Biggs. It's a mystery to me. Bottom Line he won't be able to keep all of the guys he signed, and while a bit long in the tooth, all of them have decent resumes. So come September, the Jets as well as the rest of the league are going to have some decent left overs to pick over. There are Just 2 things that I can be sure of. 1. the Pats DL will be much better (though that's kind of damning with faint praise ;) ) 2. Pats fans will have a LOT to speculate about in the coming 3 weeks.
     
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    Actually I'm surprised he hasn't taken credit for that too, since he has no trouble taking credit for the 2000 Ravens defense.::
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    But he didn't use cameras.....lol
     
  4. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    I would rank the AFC Teams like this right now:

    1. Patriots
    2. Colts
    3. Jets
    4. Steelers
    5. Ravens
    6. Chargers
    7. Chiefs
    8. Titans
    9. Texans
    10. Raiders
    11. Browns
    12. Dolphins
    13. Jaguars
    14. Bills
    15. Broncos
    16. Bengals
     
  5. dcm1602

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    The Colts ?!?

    Most people don't even have them as a lock to make the playoffs let alone be a superbowl contender.


    Jets Steelers Ravens Chargers Pats are the only 5 afc teams who even have a legit shot this season imo
     
  6. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    The top three in the AFC have to be the Jets, Pats and Steelers. I think all three of these teams are a notch above the Chargers and Ravens. Who knows if the Colts are even going to make the playoffs this year. That division is a toss up IMO.
     
  7. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    not a bad list by any stretch. I'd probably swap the Steelers and the Colts, and actually move the Raiders up ahead of the Titans and Texans.
     
  8. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    If you told those supposed students "So I think it is very foolish to predict that one team or the other will benefit from a reversion to the mean. What is much more likely is that both teams will both be hurt and helped by multiple reversions that occur over the course of the season." as a statement about regression to the mean then I feel sorry for them. I don't know what "multiple reversions occur over the course of the season" is supposed to mean, but it certainly has nothing to do with regression to the mean, which in this context was a statement about overall performance from one season to the next.

    The average number of wins the following year for teams that won 14 games is 9.7. The two times the Patriots won 14 games they averaged 12 wins the following season. I said that I could easily see the Patriots winning 12 games this year. When you figure out how all of that even remotely corresponds to me ignoring that the Patriots are a team with high average performance you can explain that to those students as well.
     
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    Yea it worked....until it got exposed. Bill knows it to, thats why he brought in ochocinco. He realizes if he tries that same offense again, it wont work because now teams know how to stop it.
     
  11. nixhead

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    The Patriots are changing to a 4-3 defense. Look at their acquisitions: Haynesworth, Catrer and Ellis - all 4-3 players. How that pans out for them I do not know but I hope they have some pretty big growing pains. I actually think it might be a mistake for them to change to a 4-3. I think they did pretty well last year - 14-2 is a pretty good record and their defense did give up some yards and was'nt great on 3rd down but some of that was because they scored so quickly and often and teams had to play catch up. I think and hope this new strategy backfires for them.
     
  12. bibigon

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    I mean, this just seems like a weird thing to say based off of one game. Look, I hope you're right, but from where I'm sitting, I can't tell the difference between an offense that got exposed and one that had a bad game. It's not like the Jets beat them in week 14, and everyone after that showed they could do it too.

    Ocho was brought in because Bill has had a man-crush on the guy for years and he was available for functionally nothing. I think he'd have been brought in even if they had won the Super Bowl.
     
  13. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Give it a rest. Two teams figured out how to stop that offense all year. Even though the jets had the capability to stop it that offense put up 45 points on them. The pats will continue to do what worked for them last year while evolving the scheme to fit the new parts.
     
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    Let's hope it back fires on them because all of those players have pretty good career numbers in the 4-3.
     
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    If I went by that same logic couldn't I say that the Jets' defense got exposed by the Steelers in the AFCC? Are you worried that suddenly teams have "figured out" how to beat up on the Jets?

    I'm guessing not, and you would be an idiot if you were.

    So I'm gonna guess you're not an idiot. I'm gonna guess you probably think a team with good players outplayed your team on one Sunday and it cost them a trip to the SB.

    The Jets had a whole bunch of really good players on defense along with a great defensive mind. Facing the Patriots offense for the 5th time in 2 years also gave them a familiarity that very few (if any) teams have.

    Other teams in the league don't have all that going for them, and they will continue to struggle against the Patriots offense. You're going to be seriously disappointed if you think the NFL has "figured out" the Patriots.
     
  16. JetsFan

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    1. Patriots - All top starters returning, plus added a lot of depth and good veteran players.
    2. Steelers - Defending AFC champs and returning most of their team.
    3. Jets - Other than question at receiver and depth at TE we return a very strong team. Must sweep the Pats to win the division.
    4. Ravens - They play tough, have a good team and could easily win their division.
    5. Chargers - Under achievers with a lot of young talent.
    6. Texans - Make or break year for them and many predict they could win their division.
    7. Colts - No new players worth noting and Peyton is a question for preseason, maybe even start of regular season. Add in some losses on thier defense and this could be a bad year.

    AFC champs will come out of the East or North.
     

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