How am I wrong if he sucked, given no real practice reps and showed no true progression from college to the pros? He could've been further along. That dude needed time being on the field in practice, not with crappy scout team. So he can see his own issues, look at the tape and help himself with the coaches input. I will continue to say the old crap until the Jets change their ways on developing qbs. Stop babying him in practice. Put the available resources into the young qb
Why the hell would you give your fourth string guy who you already know needs a total mechanical overhaul all the available resources and practice when you were trying to figure out if you should keep or cut your fourth round pick from last year?
accuracy is probably on of the few things that translates level to level, low talent to high talent, bad surroundings to good surroundings. right now, its not looking good for hackenberg. im skeptical he can become an accurate passer. in college he wasnt. even his one solid season. in TC and preseason accuracy issues all over. i think he can improve overall as a player, im not sure how much more accurate he can get
You're wrong because you have no clue what it takes to change body mechanics. I've told you and several others have as well. Gailey's confirmed what I said. The reps you want him to have would be counter-productive. They would just further ingrain his bad mechanics that need to change and make it that much harder for him to change them. That's why he's been given so few reps. He doesn't need reps until his mechanics have been altered, and then he needs thousands of them, not 50 or a couple of hundred. He can learn the offense by studying the playbook, watching Fitz and the other QBs, and watching film. Similarly, he can work on reading Ds from film study. Those two things are the least of his concerns. He probably already knows the offense and is better than Geno, if not Petty in reading Ds. He needs isolated, focused reps on fixing his mechanics apart from running plays and reading Ds. It's difficult to think of more than 1-2 things at a time when making changes to basic mechanics. Taking reps with the offense would put his focus on executing plays and reading Ds, NOT on his mechanics. He doesn't need any reps and shouldn't have any more reps with the offense until he has taken thousands of reps with the proper mechanics of dropping back or taking a shotgun snap setting his feet and then throwing with the right arm/body/foot mechanics. Once that has become his new norm (ingrained into muscle memory), then AND ONLY THEN should he begin taking snaps with the offense again and trying to execute plays.
Because Mac drafted him. In a perfect world Petty and Hack are either 1 and 2 or vice versa on the chart. Believe me when I say Petty should've gotten more reps last year too as a rookie. That's where players get the confidence and improve. I don't wanna cut Petty never really did, I wasn't too sure about him though in the first place. The practi Tell me who truly benefits from the lion share of reps? Surely not Fitz and Geno. They took those reps and provided nothing in preseason.
How do you expect to change your body mechanics without taking reps to do so? Do you think you just change your mechanics once and then immediately start repping it? What experience do you exactly have in changing body mechanics in a football throwing motion? Do I have to bring up how you have no credibility again? Your point makes absolutely no sense. He needs to fix his problems, but he shouldn't be taking reps to do so! It's laughable. Hackenberg can't get the reps at the moment because the coaching staff needed to get Fitzpatrick ready and figure out whether or not Geno or Petty are going to be the backup going into the season. If we had an All-Pro starter and a definitive backup there's no doubt in my mind Hackenberg would be playing 3 quarters a pre-season game. We don't have that luxury. So you're pumping bullshit into your argument as you always do, especially over an irrelevant debate.
I'm sure there was talent on the team at Penn St before hack attended that school. Apparently Allen Robinson elevated Hack his first season. Hack left early, so I'm sure there was talent on the team left over. Hack tried to play within the system until it was his turn to lead. Maybe his Jr year, doubt he led anything or elevated anything as a Fr or a Soph. He led the team just about as much as Nacho led our 2009 and 2010 Jets.
I think you missed my point about Franklin. Hackenberg blamed Franklin and his change of system for his statistical decline. The fact is Hackenberg iis just an inaccurate quarterback.
I think the idiot thing to do was draft a "project" with a 2nd round pick. He is worse than a project. For a player to supposedly have this wonderful football IQ (like some believe he does on this board, obviously wearing their old Sanchez goggles), he sure doesn't play smart. That's 2 games he lost for us in a row in the preseason, imagine a real game! An even more idiotic thing to do would be to invest 3 more years, waiting for this joke to "fix his mechanics". Sure, why not waste all that time and effort trying to turn a bad thing into a good one. Why not try turning a good thing into a great one? Why waste a pick that could have helped our team somewhere right now and on into the future? We have a lot of self proclaimed QB whisperers on this board who are certain that Quackenberg will be our QB of the future within the next decade.......Lol Some players can play in the pros. Some players cannot. We never should have picked this junk, which for this reason and a few others, has me seriously doubting our newest regime. At least we got rid of Rex, but it appears we are in the same boat. Great defensive team surrounded by good defensive minded staff, with no QB. I hope I'm wrong this season and the next.
I can't wait for you to give us the blue print for fixing Quackenberg. There must be a 12 step program, or some specifically named drills used as tools to refine his mechanics. Please enlighten the masses. Who knows, the Jet FO might troll this board and see what you have to offer us and them. Let's begin, I can't wait to see the answers to fixing Quack's Small defects.
No pt did he blame anyone he was asked a question and answered what he thought was the issue. I dont see anything wrong with that and i wouldnt call that blaming wow yall make up anything to fit your agenda
I just wonder why the Jets don't plan to try and change his mechanics NOW. They want to wait till after the season.... "Why the hell not?!" Will he be so wrapped up in learning the playbook that he can't take critiques on his habits now? Or they just covering up the fact that it's likely he will never hit a damn thing?
I guess it's safe to say that we all look at football differently. But imo it's extremely premature to judge the ability, potential and/or the future of a rookie QB prospect (of all positions) off of only their 1st & only preseason. Below I'll simply use Bryce Petty as an example. Preseason: 2015 Petty: 27/45 (60%), 260 yards (5.7 yards per pass attempt), 1 TD/0 INT's; QB Rating of 83.6 (TD% of 2.2). 2016 Petty: 32/56 (57.1%), 481 yards (8.6 yards per pass attempt), 3 TD's/1 INT; QB Rating of 95.9 (TD% of 5.4). Just look at the difference. It's almost night & day. After getting your feet wet with live-action (game experience) during only your 1st NFL preseason as a rookie, having another offseason as a 2nd year player can make for a world of difference due to having a full season under your belt consisting of learning the playbook while also developing on the practice field throughout your 1st NFL season; followed by being coached up during your 2nd OTA's, Training Camp (x2) and into your 2nd NFL preseason with a full season of learning experience under your belt. Where I've been getting at is, the difference between results from a raw rookie quarterbacks 1st preseason when compared to his 2nd preseason/offseason can be, at times, astronomical. No. Hackenberg didn't have a good first showing during his rookie preseason but then again neither did Goff of the Rams. Not to create excuses but the difference being throughout the entire offseason Goff (1st overall draft selection) was receiving 2nd string reps behind only 1 QB. While that of Hackenberg was receiving limited 4th string reps behind 3 other QB's. Another key factor when discussing Hackenberg's potential as a prospect is that, he's very young. Hackenberg as a rookie is only 21 years of age compared to a 2nd year QB in Petty who's now 25. Although not too many mention this aspect. Let's see if Hackenberg can make the same types of improvements as that of Petty come next year's preseason from year 1 to year 2. Before you simply write off Maccagnan's 2nd rounder. Or better yet give Hackenberg another 3 years of development from the ground up surrounding his foot work, confidence, poise & mechanics and at the age of 24 we can then see, as a franchise, what type of Quarterback prospect we just drafted behind a big arm. With improved accuracy, play recognition & mechanics he could be an absolute animal with his natural size & arm strength. If we can sit here and judge a 25 year old Geno & a 25 year old Petty (of today) maybe, just maybe believers of Hackenberg would love to see us judge him 3 years from today at the age of 24 (come tomorrow). A lot can change from now until then. If you compare the grooming situation of Hackenberg to that of Sanchez & Geno (being thrown into the fire) well then, you may just need to reconsider & evaluate your thought process regarding QB development within prospects.
Why? For starters, read my post above. Hack is going to need thousands of reps to make the proper mechanics natural where he doesn't have to think about them. How are Gailey and Patullo supposed to have the time during the season to work with Hack one-on-one changing his mechanics and watching those thousands of reps? They have games for which they have to prepare themselves and the offense. They have to work with the other QB as new plays are installed and make sure those QBs don't lapse into any bad mechanics/habits. They have to instruct Petty (who will be the scout team QB on the plays and style their opponents use). It's common sense, really. There simply isn't the necessary time to begin now.
With Bradford gone, Wentz is getting more reps. Smart way to develop the young qb instead of having him buried on the depth chart with slim pickings in terms of reps. Obviously not the same situation, but they are allocating the resources and doing everything they can to get Wentz ready Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk
They don't make that trade if Teddy doesn't go down and why wouldn't they take a first and a fourth for a Qb who isnt there future. It was dumb to sign him back in first place but don't act like they did something right lmao. They just got lucky cause of a terrible Injury to a desperate team
That is the job of the QB coach. To develop qbs around the clock, not just the offseason. Cmon now. Stop babying these qbs and get them actual practice reps. Practice throws on the sideline then get some reps against the defense to see if he's learning. No sense in just practicing without a defense because you want to see him not revert to bad habits.
LOL the only thing that is right is Wentz getting more reps. The real winner of the trade is the Browns. They have the Eagles first rounder. Signing Bradford definitely a mistake.
