As far as Petty/Geno, the 4th preseason game will have huge implications. Crazy to already peg Hack as a bust and bash Mac for the pick. Kid is in an ideal situation with Fitz essentially RS'ing under the tutelage of Gailey and Patullo. Rather than spin the negative, anyone ever think it would be a complete disservice to put him behind a 4th/5th string Oline? How awesome is it that we at least have the CHANCE to develop and mature TWO young QBs w/ talent under a stable CS and FO. Thats, IMO, is the best part of this new regime.. Alignment from the top of the FO to the bottom of the roster. Trolls and Negative Nancy's, take a walk outside its all going to be okay.
Oh no ! Our first round pick lee isn't even playing with the ones yet. That clearly means he was a reach and sucks ! Should have gone o line instead ... Mac needs to go back to pop warner
I think we are making too much of a big deal about the BU QB position. A back up is that for a reason, he is not good enough. 12 games under Eugenes belt means nothing, the team went 4-12 and 8-8. Doesn't automatically make him the better QB.
Just one other thing, Brady did not play in 3 of 5 preseason games in his first season. He sat out 3 games, had all of 4 passes in one game and only got real time in the last game of preseason.
Read recently that Tom Brady takes 100% of first team reps during camp. Refuses to give up a single rep to the BU. Reporters wanted to know how the team would handle this with Brady out the fist 4 games with Garopollo playing QB. Turns out they decided to split 1st team reps 50/50 between Brady and Garopollo. I wonder how many 1st team reps their 4th string QB normally gets.
I think Bowles has a 50/50 qb competition for #2 and needs to see Petty and Geno more than Hack. Hack no matter what is the 3rd or 4th QB. He has made the team because he is a top 50 pick. He also needs time to get built back up. Next year we will see what he's got. This year is pointless he's too raw. Who knows being patient with a QB for once might work.....
He needs to play Petty five series against third/fourth stringers to evaulate if he is better than Geno? I don't even have a problem with Bowles.... I just don't belive that "Magic" Mike has handled the QB postion well. He traded up in the fourth for a developmental QB, which is fine. But then he follow that a year later taking a QB who bas for much of his college career and needs major rehauling just to be a number two with a top fifty pick. How are these two "developmental" QBS going to get the live reps to improve?It seems as if Hackenberg won't be ready until year three.
At that time Fitz and Geno might be out of the league. If it wasn't Hack it would've been somebody else. And as long as Mac's here he'll keep trying. It looks like Petty has progressed from day to day and from OTA's til now. Nobody knew for sure what Petty was at draft time, and there's still no guarantee he'll be a starter. Nobody knew if Fitz would be back for sure either. Last year Petty was as raw as could be and many people wrote him off. There's been an obvious improvement. Mac thought well enough of Petty to draft him in the 4th rd. and then he thought well enough of Hack to draft him in the 2nd rd. I'll take either in three years if either grows into a legit #1. There's no way it was gonna be Geno or Fitz.
I hope you're wrong. I don't want to see Fitz again after this season, and wish we didn't have to see him this year. If Petty beats out Geno for the backup job, I think he will be ready to at least compete for the starting job, if not win it outright. For me the only question about Hack is how coachable he is in terms of mechanics. Some people are resistant to change, or find it hard to change. Based on what I've read about him, his desire to learn, change, grow, improve is there. It's then only a matter of how long it takes for those new mechanics to become natural and comfortable for him.
I agree that cutting Geno would be risky, especially with the way Fitz plays, but the way Geno played in practice this week and preseason game #2, it doesn't seem like it would be much of a loss. It will be interesting to see what they do. We just have to hope and pray that they get it right. Bowles and Gailey have seen him (Geno) every day in practice and they have a better handle on where Geno's mindset and confidence are, and where Petty is in his development. I will trust whatever decision they make.
Well, the alternative would be cutting a rising prospect for a guy who has already failed here and is on the last year of his contract. Next thing you know, it's the 2017 offseason and the only QB under contract is Hackenberg. Not a great situation to be in either.
An improvement from Petty was to be expected... it shouldn't be hard to improve from the level he was at last preseason. You don't take a QB who needs to be rebuilt in the second round. And his issues just don't stem from inaccuracies. After his first season, he proved to be a QB prone to staring his wr's down, one that melted under pressure from defenses, and a slow processor. Use your fourth pick on a struggling college QB and shoot for the star there. And if you disagree that's fine. But it is a concern that a QB who many of you here praise for being a high IQ player can't even get on the field for a preseason series or two over a QB who couldn't tell the difference between defensive fronts last season.
The NFL has become a really impatient league when it comes to QBs. Many times the teams that draft a QB suck and force the rookie into the lineup and ruin their careers. Mac/Bowles clearly wants to fully develop their QBs before giving them a shot. Also, don't forget Chad Pennington was the 3rd string QB after being drafted first round behind Ray Lucas and Testaverde...
Don't waste your time or energy trying to convince the chowderhead negative nancys who think they know more than Bowles and Mac. They're delusional and don't know squat.
Petty improving to the point he could compete for the back job was not a given. Nothing was a given with Petty at the time he was drafted, nothing was a given at the time of this year's draft, and he was a complete project himself. If Mac knew going into the draft that he still needed to draft a QB no matter what happened otherwise, he took the QB he wanted to. Mac made the call just like he did with Petty. He did what he saw fit. Not what anyone else perceived how he should be doing things. He is the one who went to Hacks Pro Day and brought him in for private workouts and one on one interviews. If Fitz didn't come back we'd prolly be seeing Hack. We still might. But Geno would be the starter and we'd be fucked anyway It's a luxury not a bad thing. The fact that Petty may be going up the curve and actually be getting the focus of attention makes it that much better. There's no guarantees either way.
You guys are missing the big picture. All you talk about is "grooming a project Qb for the future slowly", which is stupid. Hackenberg shouldn't have been picked period. We have way more need in other areas, than a project, 4th string QB. That's what is so stupid. For those who can't see this, and believe QB's are the driving force behind superbowls, I hate that your combined IQ's wouldn't add up to 100. You sure don't draft project QB's 2 seasons in a row. Especially when Petty (in the 4th round) showed more promise than this season's 2nd round debacle. When Fitz is gone, Macc will sign a starter again, while hoping Petty can take over. he doesn't look ready at all. maybe one day you will realize our Macc fucked up. Time will show, and when it does how many of you numb nuts will change your log in names to avoid looking stupid? You build by drafting starters as early in the draft as possible, because they have talent and the ability to plug and play. Projects are burn picks for the later rounds. DUH!!! This is like the same crowd who said Nacho will lead us to the promise land, except this time it isn't a QB, it's the guy who buys the groceries.
Well it's a good thing you haven't changed your log in so we can easily see the stupidity you have spewed for the last 10 years.
Go back and see how wrong I was. Nacho didn't work, Mangini didn't either, just to name a couple topics you on the other hand, probably argued for?
