Hackenberg still can't hit open targets....

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  1. NoodleArm

    NoodleArm Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what I was thinking. What was that receiver thinking? He didn't elevate at all for the ball. Very disappointing considering that if he was tightly covered, he'd have to jump to made that catch. Also, maybe in that context, perhaps Hack's stimulating coverage in his head, and his throw was intentionally high?

    (Slightly off topic, but I recall reading/seeing something about overthrows along the sideline being less awful than overthrows over the middle. If I find it, I'll update.)
     
  2. NYJFOREVER

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    Well an overthrow on the sideline is most likely going out of bounds, or the DB has to make a circus catch to intercept it. An overthrow over the middle is gonna go right into the safeties hands.
     
  3. FrontOfficeFanatic

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    Supposedly Petty hasnt been good in OTAs, why would a reporter write anything about him? Hack is the bait reporters are using to get clicks on their stories. Its pathetic that fans are not getting any good reporting or fact based information, unfortunately we will have to wait till preseason or real games to get a true assessment of these guys and their development.
     
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    Your first word says it all.
     
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  6. Big Cat

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    This is interesting. I've seen articles about how the root of Hack's inaccuracy is that he doesn't point his front foot to his target. In this video on Bill O'Brien's throwing philosophy, he says that he doesn't coach his QBs to point their foot to their target. "There may be some disagreement here but I don't care..."



    Perhaps BOB had a role in "breaking" Hack, not just Franklin
     
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    Please provide the url like that states this... I have not read anything of the sort.
     
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  8. Walt White

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    Yep, that's what that dipshit wants to lecture people about. But he'll leave himself an out by saying he's improved. The guy doesn't know a thing about athletics. And then the other rats like Semeny paste it so they're not committed to it, and leave themselves an out. You even saw that back pedaling here by a couple of the experts on here that lectured down to everybody after the pick...like they knew haha.
    There isn't a QB in the universe that hasn't thrown a pass like that in OTA's.
    The reason why I liked Parcells is because after his first year with The Giants shit like that didn't wash with him and he went after reporters like that. I loved it.
     
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  9. regan62072

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    The Jets beat writers are garbage, lead by Cimini & Manish. Sounds like this guy Hughes is trying to get his click numbers up.


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  11. Red Menace

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    I can't share the link for some reason, so I copied the part on Petty.


    Please take it with a grain of salt, the Jets reporters have been pretty bad and just using garbage articles as click bait, these guys should be embarrassed in regards to how they represent their profession.


    No. 3: Bryce Petty
    NOTABLE STATS: 4 of 7 passing on Day 1 | Interception Day 2




    OVERVIEW: It's tough to get an accurate read on Bryce Petty. In the two practices open to the media, he rotated between the two fields. It's clear, though, he's a step or two behind both Christian Hackenberg and Josh McCown.

    Petty had a rough go of things this past Tuesday. He threw an ugly interception in a 7-on-7 drill, and struggled with accuracy on even the most basic of throws.
     
  12. legler82

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    Never as far a I can remember. That said; I know of instances of naturally inaccurate QBs improving the CMP%s and having success because of the offense they are in. For example, Michael Vick's yearly CMP% jumped nearly 10% points, fro 51.4% to 62.6 the first full year he got to play the Reid's WCO. The offense didn't really make him more accurate; it just provided him more easier completions. Donovan McNabb is another otherwise inaccurate QB whose natural inaccurate was able to be curbed and somewhat hidden by the WCO. Favre's college CMP% 52.4% was even lower than Hack's, but coaching, scheme and his other talents made the fact he was not the most accurate of passers negligible. Being inaccurate is not ideal for a QB but it's not the death nail some make it out to be.

    At some point we need to stop hoping and waiting for the perfect QB to fall on our laps and expect more out of our coaches. It seems the player development part of their job description tend to be ignored here. Even the most perceived to be perfect of QB prospects need the right coaching and scheme to achieve success. Hack's own college career is a microcosm of this. He was a highly touted HS recruit who under the right coach and scheme appeared to be a future #1 overall pick. Under the wrong coach and/or scheme, he looked like an inaccurate UDFA stiff. IMO Hack has enough talent for a good coach to yield something out of. I've seen coaches achieve success with guys with far less talent.
     
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    As much as Connor Hughes has been bashing Hack, he himself have said that Hack as of now looks like the one that should be the one behind McCown not Petty.
     
  14. LarryAlRalph

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    Aw, come on man. After what we read around here? The most negative kvetch-fest on the planet? :eek:
     
  15. LogeSection2RowJ

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    Bashing the Jets makes good copy. It's gotten worse in the current media landscape of sensationalism and click bait. We're all sick of it, and we ourselves should not be suckered into falling for it. Some of it the team brings on itself (Rex being brash, Favre, Tebow, etc) but it is clear we are the step-child team in this city. All things being equal we will always be treated less-fairly around here than the Giants. Bashing the Jets is fun for some people. F**k them.
     
  16. TonyFtLaud

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    Hughes really has not been bashing Hack. If you listen to his complete blog you will see Cimini and the like have taken pices of a sentence added them to pices of other sentences and come up with the bashing.
    Hughes has said that Hack has shown improvement and constantly says can't take anything from OTAs. Some missed throws are Recievers running the wrong route, or miscommunications. Of course that is never carried over by the beat writers
     
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  17. FrontOfficeFanatic

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    This is a pretty good analysis of the situation as well, spends a little more time on it. I think it's funny that Herm says that play action is going to help Hack becoming more accurate, not sure how it would really help. I remember Penny being super effective off play-action though, he misses those days something terrible.
     
  18. Red Menace

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    Leg, are we talking about the 3rd string spot with Mccown as backup or backup with Mccown as starter?
     
  19. TonyFtLaud

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    McCown as the starter, Hack as second string and Petty as 3rd string.
     
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  20. legler82

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    Back-up with McCown as starter. He feels Hack is still not ready but still should be ahead of Petty.
     
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