Yes shock waves would begin forming. Then if we went to 3-0 the beginning of a change in the AFCE would certainly begin to be talked about. If U look at the Pats 1st 4 games I surely think Pat fans have them all penciled in as Ws
This is the kind of dreaming that will only come back to to hurt Jet fans. It's sad too because as a life long Pats fan I remember some of the worst teams to ever step on a field, I remember looking for hope behind every new player or coach, but Jet fans take it to a new level. Short of Brady going down the first 4 games will be W's, that's just a fact. What's sad for Jet fans is that your taking a good signing, and instead of having fun with it, you making sure that it's going to be nothing but a disapointment come game time.
The facts are in 08 the Pats are the biggest losers in the entire NFL. Your counting victories just like you did in January. Talk about not having fun, your team has only one place to take you dissapointment.
Until last yera he never had half the weapons to throw to that guys like Manning have had. The last 3 years he played about as well as Plummer, Manning & Manning. The D choked NOT Brady. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/07/25/chff.belichick/1.html I love how Brady choked by leading his team to a late Td to take the lead and throwing for 266 yds and a TD but Eli nwas great throwing for 255 yds w/ 2 TDs and 1 INT. Brady was horrible against Indy going 21-34 for 232 w/ 1 TD and 1 INT but Peyton was great going 27-49 for 349 yds w/ 1 TD and 1 INT(that was returned for a TD). Moss wasa running wild? yeah that's why the best QB in the game could only complete 5 pass for 62 yds to him. Moss had 7 recs in 3 playoff games, I'm sure it was b/c all of a sudden Brady forgot how to play. D's took Moss away and dared NE to beat them w/ the dink and dunks to Welker. That's why all of a sudden every game was close int he playoffs. System guy who took over a sinking ship in NE and turned them into a dynasty but Namath now ther was an all-time great. Brady has nothing on him
The "Dynasty" hasn't won a SB in 3 seasons. Good time to jump on the bandwagon. Warner was the best QB of your generation also, remember. When did I ever say Namath was better than Brady? I don't doubt for a minute that Namath would have gottent the ball to Moss under the Giants pressure numerous times but I certainly wouldn't suggest that he was better than your heroe.
Are you saying that I said warner was the best QB of his generation? Namath never would have had the chance b/c his team wouldn't have been playing in the SB. If Moss was open Brady would have found him. Brady hasn't won a SB in an astounding 3 seasons. The guy really sucks, doesn't he? Come on winston, put your patriot hating aside and look at things logically.
Pats are done going to the Superbowl. Mark my words. The Pats are an old team, and in a few years they will start posting losing records. Pats biggest weakness this season will be defending the pass: Their entire secondary aside from Meriweather is either bad, slow or old.
I hope you're right. Hey, did Adalius Thomas work out for them last year? I don't remember him doing anything special.
Namath, in his prime would have absolutely taken last years Pats team to a SB and won it. So would a ton of fomer and even current NFL QB's including Kurt Warner who before he hurt his thumb was every bit as good as Brady. Brady won SB when he was asked to manage games. He threw 3INT's in his first 10 playoff games and won 3 SB. Since than he has thrown 9 INT's in 7 playoff games and won no SB's.
Then why did namath only lead his team to 2 playoff appearances? Brady as a 1st year starter did beat warner and the Rams in the SB, right? I agree Warner had a 3 year run as good as any QB in the history of the game but longevity counts and Brady has been 1-2 for a long time now while Warner's thumb healed and he became an average QB not surrounded by those amazing weapons he had in SL(which Brady has NEVER had- even last year).
Those are the breaks, part of the job is staying healthy enough to be able to play your best. I fully agree talent wise he was as gifted as any QB to play the game but typical Jets luck he was never truly healthy.
To bring ur point home more strongly JWN was operated on by mid 60s standards not todays highly advanced medical procedures
Brett says the offensive coaches have way too much time on their hands. He doesn't need to learn 1000 plays. He says give him 35 plays and he will run each one twice a game. Now thats what I call simplifying an offense.
I went thru this entire thread to note if any smart ass know-it-all Jets fan had picked up on this one little tidbit which should be of some concern. Shottenheimer better know what type of offense BF is suited for, because based on what I've seen during this regime, I'm not so sure that he's got enough upstairs to adjust to it. I recall many, many,many posts on these forums calling for Shot's head because of dumb concervative play calling (and NOT because of Chad's so called weak arm either). Being the NFL's all time INT leader does call for some concern, and at age 39, to boot.
By the way Junc one of the reasons I think Namath would have been very effective in today's NFL is the QB is protected. The pass rush that Brady faced in the SB was typical in the NFL in Namath's era. You also had the hash marks much wider apart, you didn't have multiply reciever sets you didn't have the 3 step drop and the rythm passing game. With Namath's release, the OL extending their hands, the D not being able to go to the head on either the OL, the QB or the WR and the multiple passing sets with multiple recievers, guys like Namath, Jurgenson, Bradshaw would have put up sick numbers. On top of that they won't be calling their own plays and would be operating in a much more controlled environment. You also didn't have the football put in the middle of the field on every play because of the hash marks. The question isn't what Namath would do with the Pats, it's what Brady would have done with the Jets facing the kind of pressure he faced against the Giants without the safety value WR's and the 3 step drops.
