Greg Williams Installing Attacking Defense

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  1. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    If these guys don't win right away they won't last long here. JMO

    The Jets didn't finally go out and hire a experienced head coach to wait 2-3 years to see results they could've hired another first time HC for that and by most accounts Gase & Williams have very abrasive personalities.

    That's not gonna work in this town if they don't win right away NY will swallow them whole.

    I wanted Gase & Williams here. I like the hires they've made to the staff including the latest hiring of Hines Ward. There's a lot of successful people on that staff.

    Now they have to go out and win.

    They have to.
     
  2. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    it's too much BS and fluff for me.....u can't have an effective attacking defense without a shutdown CB and stud OLB. Yes u can scheme your way in part using your best players (adams and mosely) but that will only go so far.

    Unless one of these no name corners or LB's steps up and is a pleasant surprise, its gonna be points galore.
     
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  3. WarriorRB28

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    This team is built to win with their offense.

    I'll say it again I can't remember ever seeing a Gregg Williams defense get pushed around all over the place.

    IF Gase, Darnold & co. step up Gregg Williams' defense will be good enough. I'm confident about that.
     
  4. BroadwayAaron

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    Gregg Williams’ style is aggressive which means you’re going to get hard hitting and big plays but it also means you’re going to give up some home runs and triples. I can’t remember the last time a team won because of a Gregg Williams defense.

    All of this being said, I love that he’s here. He’s what we need to inject some life into the team opposite Gase who in theory, should be doing the same to the offense. We have the right mix.
     
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    You wanting them to win right now doesn’t change their actual situation.
     
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    One, when you said everyone says they want to change the culture and no one does, then you totally backtrack? Why not just say you were wrong? Don't give us a book to read dancing around the idea that its wrong. LOL

    What you really arent geting is that if they change the culture they will win ballgames. Hey Herm changes the culture to a degree and won games, made the playoffs. Thats the point, players who hate losing more than anything, who think team over over self promotion, their own stats, play as a team, usually win. For all the talk of the Pats way, thats it in a nutshell. Players come in and do their jobs, do what theyre asked to do. No one is brought in to win it all on their own, for their own glory.

    Thats the culture change everyone comes into a team and talks about. Its just not the easiest thing to do and takes certain type players to accomplish
     
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  7. Biggs

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    Bill Parcells and Tom Coughlin were delightfully sweet, nice guys.
     
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    Like Belichich, Landry, Shula, Gibbs, Shanahan etc?
     
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    They would have all been amazing at interior design.
     
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    If you don't believe culture matters you only have to look at what the Brooklyn Nets have accomplished under Sean Marks to see what a positive impact it can have.

    He turned around the Nets from being a laughingstock to being one of the most respected organizations in the NBA.

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    While you're correct that one can't have a really effective attacking defense without a shutdown CB and stud OLB, one can still try to take it to and dictate to opposing offenses. Not having those two key pieces mean that you'll fail and give up soe big plays and probably long TDs, the Jets have been doing that for the last several years anyway. They haven't had a stud OLB since Abraham and a shutdown CB since Revis in his first stint with the Jets.

    I like the mentality of attacking, of swarming to the ball, of picking up every ball that hits the ground, of trying to create TOs and big plays for the D. Those things sure weren't happening under Bowles or the end of Rex's reign. It just means that we have to blitz more and hope that a young CB will step up until Douglas can find that stud OLB and shutdown CB.
     
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    Anyone that doesn't believe that culture matters doesn't understand the first thing about sports, especially football.
     
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    Hopefully G. Williams puts a bounty out on Tom Brady and ends his career. Our Jets introduced Brady to the NFL many of years ago when injuring Drew Bledsoe and it'll be story telling if we're the ones who end his playing career once and for all.

    With that said, I've never been one to root for injury, it's just a game; but after all the cheating Brady has done alongside of Belly with Spygate, Deflategate etc, etc I wouldn't lose a second of sleep if G. Williams goes back to his bounty hunting days of New Orleans and puts Brady 6 feet deep into the turf.
     
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    yes the jets got him into this league, its time to take him out. LOL
     
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    I'd rather drive him into retirement by beating him twice, winning the division, and keeping them out of the playoffs.
     
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    Good summary....I had the last SB on in the background today (New England, Rams). A close, low scoring game. Rams were driving late in the game for a tying TD when Belichick called his FIRST heavy blitz of the entire game. Resulted in a game ending INT near the endzone.

    There's something to be said for an attacking defense that blitzes 40-50% of the snaps, and a defense that springs a well planned blitz on an unsuspecting offense at just the right time.
     
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  17. WarriorRB28

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    I haven't been following the NBA nearly as much as I used to so I can't comment on your comparison.

    I will say this moving to New York and building a world class stadium doesn't hurt in helping to change the 'culture' of a franchise.
     
  18. WarriorRB28

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    The NFL is a win now league.

    The system isn't designed for talented teams to stay intact for long. I think people look at the Patriots and think that's the norm the Patriots are NOT the norm.

    They just went out and spent a boatload of cash in free agency. Darnold & Adams are still playing on rookie deals.

    NOW is the time for them to win.
     
  19. WarriorRB28

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    These guys weren't hired to change a culture they were hired to win ballgames.

    We don't need saviors we need wins. Win first.

    When WINNING ballgames becomes a habit, a expectation that's your culture change right there.

    Easier said than done. Herm made the playoffs in three of his five years here, Mangini made the playoffs in his first season then had the team in a great spot in 2008 before the wheels fell off. Rex's teams made it to back-to-back AFC Championship games in his first two years. Even Bowles went 10-6 in hist first season.

    Strike while the iron is hot.

    I heard Joe Benigno say that there comes a point in a HC's tenure where if the window of opportunity is missed that's it that's the peak. After that it won't get better.

    For Herm it was the heartbreaking loss in the playoffs Pittsburgh 2004 season. For Rex it was the team coming out flat in the AFC Championship game 2010 season. For Bowels it was @ Buffalo 2015.

    The Jets went on a huge spending spree this offseason, Darnold, Anderson & Adams are on rookie deals. Gase's window is open NOW .
     
  20. LF911SC

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    First sentence, yes if theyre hired by a team thats been losing, they're hired to change that losing culture. Absolutely.

    The rest has nothing to do with that thought.

    And Beningo is a clown who trolls his own teams fanbase to make headlines, could care less what "woe is me" thinks about anything. :)
     

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