It's not that. You just compared RGIII who did more in ONE game this year than Gholston ever did in his entire career. Regarding his future, we'll see but I think he makes a full recovery and the Skins never let him run again the way he did this year.
Their field is a problem. I'm not so sure the injury is. Stem cell treatment is becoming something players seek out as an alternative to the quick-healing properties of steroids/HGH and it works well. I haven't heard any rumors about Adrian Peterson seeking this method out, but seeing his miraculous comeback season, I'd bet the farm that he left the country under cover of night during the offseason to get it done. FYI - there were rumors (denied, of course) about Tim Duncan getting stem cell done two offseasons ago for his chronic knee issues and he is now playing like he did 5-6 years ago. Manning had it done after four spinal surgeries and put up an OPOY-worthy performance this season.
While yes Rivers and Eli were traded, they were traded before every playing a game which is what I think the OP is after. Trading for a QB like a backup or signing a FA seems to be the road less taken in having a SB winning QB. The thing is, there aren't very many good QBs in this draft. If we draft a QB at #9 I think we are reaching for one. That means the QB coms in the draft in 2014. The situation we are in now vaguely resembles the situation we had in 2009 draft. We have nobody we like as QB on our roster, the draft coming up is a "weak" QB draft class, we have a dire need for fresh blood at QB. In 2009 we traded up to get Sanchez and look where we are now. It's best not to reach for the franchise QB. It's an important pick that can keep you going for years to come or set you back for a few years.
The Jets have Murphy's Law when trying to fill their needs. Need a pass rusher? Bad draft class. Need a free safety? Bad draft class. Need a receiver? Bad draft class. That's why they should always go BPA unless they really NEED something badly. I'd be willing to deal with stopgap FA QBs (or status quo) for a year or two until that QB drops into our lap. The one that gets it immediately, and doesn't need his hand held for 3 years while the team fucks themself in the ass with bad coordinators.
I know it sucks to say this. But unless we are going to bring in a clear upgrade and solution for more than 1 year I think we need to have Sanchez and McElroy compete for the job. I don't see any benefit in signing a 1 year stop gap that won't give us a clear and longer term workable upgrade.
Exactly, you don't rush your franchise QB pick. You want someone who can come in and get it. And that's why I could live with a Jackson, Moore, etc for 1.5 years. The theory in my head is build up the team's key components this year and the cap to be more manageable. Get a journeyman QB for 2-3 years like Moore, Orton, Jackson. For the 2013 season, they battle Greg and Mark in TC. Whoever wins starts 2013. Barring a miracle development, Sanchez is gone after 2013. Then in the 2014 draft which looks good QB wise (obviously can change big time) we go QB. The journeyman QB is still here, same deal in TC. Here is where I hesitate. I like the idea of letting the rookie QB sit and learn, but more and more it seems that the idea is that rookie QBs start immediately. I wouldn't be opposed to it, but the rookie QB should have to earn the job through TC.
You still compared him to Gholston who did absolutely nothing in 3 years, he was a utter fucking waste. RGIII in a year has done more then Gholston could do in is entire life lazy ass life.
This would be the best step in fixing the QB issue. Our long-term replacement could be in the 2014 draft. I'll take another bad year if we can get Bridgewater whom could be our next QB for the next 10
I appreciate the thread's point, but most of these QBs were drafted which means the teams that drafted them didn't have success with them (in most scenarios). I think the thread should be more specific in that, you must draft your franchise QB AND not bust.
I like the idea of Orton running a game-manager style of offense, he's got the skillset to be decent in a WCO. Plus, it would be a middle-finger to the douchebag Tebow fans we've had to deal with for the past year. But we need to find that answer at runningback. Morninweg may run WCO, but he likes to run the ball. After having seen the baby's-first-playbook style of QB mentoring that happened with Sanchez after he was drafted, I have the same kind of hesitation. But NFL QB choices are usually that right-time/right-place kind of situation that only works about 60% of the time. Sucks, because the odds are against the Jets finding that right situation.
Vick couldn't throw like RGIII until he got out of prison. And when I say "throw like RGIII" I mean be as good as Griffin was as a rookie. Vick was twice as fast as Griffin and sucked in the passing game for most of his career. Bad comparison, aside from their frames.
Jets are also an impatient group. I won't be surprised if they pick a QB with our first rounder this year as a sign of panic because the SB is in Metlife Stadium
^ they need to get the stop gap QB who is the prototype of the franchise QB they will draft in 2014. So if they go with T. Jackson, then they need to draft a guy w. Jackson tools but better in 2014. That way T. Jackson can train the guy to take over.
Are the Jets looking into the future to improve their team though? Bring in David Garrard or a true veteran to the game as you mentioned. The issue here is what are the Jets thinking? Do they feel they are still a step away, or do they need to restart some things completely on offense? I hope the Jets are looking into the 2014 draft class for a QB, but you never know what the Jets true intentions are. I feel the Jets could get right back into the AFCCG with a franchise QB in 2014 and get skill position players in this and next draft. But seriously, the Jets always do something completely different. I just hope they make the right decision that is best for the team for a change so far this off-season not so bad.
Good point at RB. In the draft forum, they seem to think we can snag decent one in the 3rd round which would be great. Although McKnight is interesting too in that role. I never felt we used him enough but every time we used him I was terrified he was gonna fumble so there's that. Obviously the hope is the kid we draft in 2014 gets put in a Wilson type situation where , protect the ball, make big plays, understand your role while we have strong offensive philosophy with good RB and defense to help him. THat would be ideal obviously. Quickest way to realistically fix the team, but it all comes back to getting the right QB developing him properly. The second part is where I lack a lot of faith in the Jets
