I don't think Ryan does regrets. Also, I think he's more than happy with LT. We all saw what Jones had left late last season: nothing.
Before things are done we're going to need the ability to dictate on the ground. The weather will get worse. We're fairly likely to have a playoff game in Pittsburgh or the Meadowlands, or both, in January. We're going to run into teams that decide that putting a lot of pressure on Sanchez is the way to beat us. A strong rushing attack is going to be a key ingredient in any late season success we have.
I have no idea but I know it's not good to fail it under any circumstances but for a guy who threw up at mini camp it's even worse.
Yes, I think part of the 2nd team offense's run struggles in the preseason can be attributed to the 2nd team OL. If not, why are people so sorry to see CW go? He had the same struggles in the preseason until late game scrubs came in on defense. So now you know better than the coaching staff? Or rather, you don't trust what they say? It sounds to me like you believe whatever you believe and don't let any evidence stand in your way. Do you only believe Rex when it's convenient for you? It was the right move to get rid of Leon. It was at the time, and it still is. He wouldn't be helping this team nearly as much as you think this season, and he wouldn't be helping us at ALL next season. I'd rather have Conner, or the two draft picks next year that you would have given away to get Conner this year.
How you can you say that he was a move for now? What pressing need do the Jets have that they expected McKnight to step into? Leons role is filled by LT, Jones' role is also currently filled by LT with some help from Greene. Kickoffs are handled by Brad Smith and punts are the only area it would be nice to have McKnight but we have a platoon of guys who can be used based on the game situation. Where else would Leon or McKnight be playing right now? If you are trying to accuse me of pumping up McKnight and trashing Leon you must have missed what has to be 4 separate posts where I praised and wished Leon luck. Sometimes teams have good players that they just can't use because they don't have a spot for him. I would love to have Leon on the team as great insurance if either of our main backs goes down. The problem is no team has the luxury of keeping a guy like Leon to ride the bench in case of an injury. Mcknight was drafted for his potential and as a work in progress. There is a reason a guy with first round talent fell so far in the draft. We got to see some of those reasons in the preseason and on HK. I am confident that all of his issues are fixable and that he will be ready to go when the time comes for him to see the field.
You have no idea because you think Rex was lying to all of us. You could have an idea of why he failed it if you weren't wearing horse blinders.
He wanted Leon here to replace 80 - 112 of the 170 carries we're not likely to see anyway, to provide a minimal improvement over Brad Smith in the return game, and to ensure that this team either misses out on John Conner or starts next year's draft with only 4 draft picks.
:lol: How hard is it to see that there aren't enough carries for 3 backs on this team this year? They have unleashed Sanchez and the run blocking from the offensive line isn't as good as it was last year yet. If Sanchez is throwing the ball 30 times a game that leaves 30 running plays at most. Between traditional running plays with Greene and LT and the wildcat with Brad Smith we are already out of carries for every game.
Why are we talking about Joe McKnight? Because of Leon? Couldn't we talk about Kerry Rhodes? Among the strengths of the veteran's we released/traded (Alan Faneca's run-blocking, Leon Washington's return ability, Kerry Rhodes' coverage skills, Thomas Jones' consistency) Rhodes' coverage skills is the strength most missed. Don't that just stick in ya craw! :breakdance:
McKnight: 38 carries, 103 yds, 2.7 YPC Chauncey: 20 carries, 75 yds, 3.8 YPC Woodhead: 16 carries, 57 yds, 3.6 YPC None were great but Chauncey and woodhead were alot mroe effective behind the same OL. Rex is a players coach, he talks the guys up. Please don't buy everything he says. You are smarter than that. It may hve been the right move to trade leon, that will be determined in the coming years. Right now it doesn't look great but it may have been the right move- we'll see. You don't seem to get that LT wasn't signe dto take over Leon's role, he was signed to take part of that role and take over the role as #2 back that Jones would have had. We don't have a leon taking touches away from the top 2 backs and keeping them fresher for down the stretch. Leon would not have cost us big dollars this year, we easily could have kept him. Again, Rex will always pump up his players in the media. Don't believe everything he tells us. Remember how good vernon looked last year? how did that work out? Remember how he was talking up Cromartie while revis was out? Cromartie is good but he's no Revis as we saw on Sunday Night. I can't wait for your 1st relevant post. I love how people all of a sudden think we are a passing team. Yeah we'll pass more but we are still a run team first. It's nice to have fans that read my stuff wherever I post. Thank you.
Yeah predicting that the Jets will run a balanced offense the rest of the year means I think the Jets are a passing team. Junc, you don't seem to get that there is no way that Leon would be getting carries right now. LT has been getting about 15 and Greene a little less. In a perfect world Greene is getting a few more carries and LT stays the same. There aren't enough plays in the game to effectively use Greene and LT and keep the passing attack going. I love how you seem to think it would be preferable to have Leon on the field instead of LT at certain points in the game. LT is a complete back while Leon is a specialist. I love that you can't see the value in having the complete back on the field as much as possible.
Leon is a difference maker, he already won a game for Seattle. At some point he would have been a a difference maker for us. Maybe not right away as he is easing back but he would have been at sone point. Will it matter? will someone else pick up that slack? I don't know, we'll never know unless we win a SB. I have moved on, I'm tried of talking about this. I feel we made a mistake, you guys don't and that's great. We are allowed to have different opinions and again I can take one mistake when Tannebaum hasn't made many.
I don't have a problem with you thinking it's a mistake. I have a problem with you declaring with certainty it was a mistake when our offensive backfield has been excellent so far this season. For all we know that was Leon's one big impact of the season. He could also go on to the pro bowl, we just don't know yet. Right now I find it hard to make a case for it being a mistake after two KO return touchdowns. If we revisit this in December we will have a pretty clear idea of if it was a mistake or not.
Chauncey's success primarily came later in games, though, after defensive substitutions brought scrubs, not even backups, into the game. Watching the preseason games, he never looked better than McKnight when they were rotating in against those backups. That's why I made that comment in the other post. I don't buy everything Rex says, but I do buy what he said about McKnight. I have no reason not to. It was stated that McKnight passed the same test weeks prior. There's no reason to think that a basic lack of conditioning was at fault. Fatigue from overtraining makes a whole lot more sense when you consider what happened to him in minicamp and what happened immediately after his failed test. I was shocked so much was made of it...well, surprised anyway. The media just wanted a story to start off camp. Again, the only way you can argue that it wasn't the right move is if we have to rely on McKnight this season and he fails, while Leon establishes himself in the running game in Seattle. As of right now, we've addressed the limited carries issue by simply limiting carries. We haven't needed anyone to replace those carries. It won't take a few seasons to know whether it was the right move. Leon could have been a Jet for ONE more season. That's it. We'll know all we need to about this trade by the offseason. Don't think McKnight's future success determines the value of the Leon trade. He was likely going to be the pick whether we got rid of Leon or not as a high-potential future prospect for our run game.
