Gone but not forgotten..

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  1. jetophile

    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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    Jachai Polite? Oh, wait . . .

    My rabid Jets fan friend, Vinnie, and I have this saying: Former Jet? Destined for stardom.

    Terrence Mathis anyone?
     
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  2. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    That these backup-quality-at-best players were impersonating starter material within this organization is in itself the major indictment toward the past coaching staff.

    Yep. Not a single starter in the entire list up there. Nothing to see. And Cimini obviously have taken a page out of Mehta playbook of stupidity.

    DC during Rex Ryan days.
     
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    Obviously, this is one of those threads "for amusement only".
     
  4. Cman65

    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Especially since there aren't any current Jets in the playoffs. Hasn't been a Jet playoff appearance in a decade. Lets have a good laugh.. We'll be laughing in 2020 too..
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

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    Indeed he could! I'm hoping that Douglas will help in that regard. I hope that he will have a frank discussion with Gase about things upon which he believes that Gase needs to improve next season, and I really hope that Gase will be open to it, listen and learn.
     
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  6. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Not every player liked Pettine. Cromartie called him a "high school coach" and said they argued all the time in that Collision Course book written on the 2011 Jets season, or whatever it was.

    It happens, hes a good DC.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Darron Lee a healthy scratch today.
     
  8. JetsAreBadForYourHealth

    JetsAreBadForYourHealth Active Member

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    Yea I really don't understand why Carroll was dismissed after 1 year to make room for the lazy and stupid Kotite. The 1994 team collapsed by Carroll was known as a bright and up and coming NFL coach. Really wish somebody on the inside stood up to moron Hess at that point and at least tried to explain how dumb a decision that was
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't a dumb decision! It was one of the few good decisions that Hess made. Carroll was very immature. He just wanted to be one of the "guys" at that point in his life. He had had a basketball goal installed in the parking lot so he could shoot hoops with the players. He was not a leader or disciplinarian. He says that it took getting fired from both the Jets and Patriots to wake him up, to make him sit down and do some real soul searching, and he realized that he needed to make some major changes in his approach. It may not have been as bad as under Kotite, but Carroll still would have been an utter failure.
     
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  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    He got tied up with Mehtastasis and not surprisingly wound up naked in a burlap sack tied high in a tree.
     
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  11. Cman65

    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Generally people change and get wiser as they get older and more experienced. I'm sure the Pete Carroll we see today wasn't the Pete Carroll who coached the Jets. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule..
     
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    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He was also the primary leaker to Manish Mehta during the early Rex years.
     
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    BroadwaySam Well-Known Member

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    yup, but I would take a literally anything over what we have now. I mean as a head coach, I wouldnt give up Williams for anyone other than Rex if he wanted to be DC (never would happen)
     
  14. NCJetsfan

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    True, but I think Pete Carroll knows himself better than any of us. He himself said that's what it took for him to learn and grow. With the lack of any evidence to the contrary, we must assume that he is correct that it took getting fired a couple of times for him to change. He must not have learned much of anything when he was fired by the Jets. Following his firing by the Jets, he was the DC for the Niners for two seasons. He was hired by the Patriots in '97, after Parcells quit in a dispute. The Patriots won the AFC East in '97, I think largely due to the discipline and foundation that Parcells had built. They lost the wildcard game in '98, and then in '99, the Patriots had a late season slide, missed the playoffs and Carroll was fired. The Patriots went 10-6, then 9-7, then 8-8. To his credit, Robert Kraft said that firing Carroll was one of the toughest decisions he had to make since buying the team. So he must have done something right. (source: Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carroll
     
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  15. HomeoftheJets

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    So you're saying Gase is going to win a Super Bowl in 20 years from now?
     
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    I would take issue with the bolded. Though I'm not inclined to hunt it down now I remember Carroll being quoted very early on as saying he would have done things differently including putting some distance between himself and the players given a second year.

    Haven't found any real words from Carroll but here's a piece Cimini did six years ago that should be of interest to those who weren't around in those days.
     
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    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    LOL... Who knows man.. Again, Gase could be the exception to the rule too. I guess it depends on how many times you get kicked in the ass in life, accept that its your fault it keeps happening, then learn how to stop it from happening.
     
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  18. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Because Kotex was Hesses lackey :mad:
     
  19. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    H'mm hopefully U R aware that Gase cut both Henry & Tannenhill That makes me wonder if he knows anything about spotting talent :mad:
     
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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Wonder who was smarter TN for hiring Vrabel or us for hiring Gase?:mad:
     
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