Going Deep - How successful offenses work

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  1. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Yep ..we have 9 picks in 2022 : 2 first round, 2 second round , a third round selection, then 2 4ths and 2 5ths

    IMo we don't draft an OL till round 2 at earliest..spend our 2 first rounders on Receivers with hands of glue to handle Zachs hardballs he throws smh

    Second round maybe OL third round maybe OL...but 5 or 6 remaining picks have to be DBs and LB s since the D is pourous crapola
     
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  2. Jedi mind tricks

    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    I don't know enough about the prospects but I doubt they go double WR in round 1. Hell JD might not draft 2 WRs the whole draft :rolleyes:
    We need defense help but we have to go into next year with a solid WR core. And I don't think we're that far off Moore looks like a player, I like Davis just not as a WR1 he looked like a bust in Tennessee until he got AJ Brown playing next to him. Get one top flight WR and a TE with a pulse and we're in business
     
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  3. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree. Need a stud WR for Wilson to have a chance
     
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  4. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Eh yeah but this "he can make all the throws" thing is the same exact thing Darnold defenders said for three years in defense of him. Basically every QB who gets drafted high "can" make all the throws. It's quite another thing to actually make them and do it consistently. Wilson has shown basically no ability to do that yet.

    Allen is an anomaly. Very few QB's improve their accuracy that much. Before Allen's turnaround accuracy was considered one of the few things that's almost impossible for a QB to improve on significantly. That's why so many people considered Allen a bad pick at the time.
     
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  5. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Darnold could NOT make all the throws. Yes, he had the arm strength to make them, but his accuracy was always a problem. It wasn't seen as much of a problem as Allen's so it kind of went under the radar, but he struggled with his accuracy, mainly due to poor mechanics, and unlike Allen he apparently never saw the need to work on it.

    Zach OTOH, WAS highly accurate in college. And he's shown he can be accurate in the pros, but he does need to get more consistent like he was at BYU. A big part of the problem with his accuracy though was terrible OL play and forcing him to rush things. There's a whole different speed of play in the NFL that all rookies have to adapt to, but in the Jets case, with the terrible pass pro it was a supersonic speed he had to adjust to. But later in the season, when the OL was playing much better, no coincidence, his accuracy improved.

    The other thing to keep in mind is that Zach has always played with a chip on his shoulder and worked to prove the doubters wrong. He's a film room junkie and even Saleh and LaFleur mentioned that he knew the playbook maybe better than they do. Yes, I get it, he has to actually DO IT to prove it, but all the signs point to him doing it.
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He clearly showed that ability his last year at BYU, and if one has that ability, one doesn't lose it. With a better OL, better WRs and TEs who can actually catch, and continued improvement from MLF, that ability will show itself in 2022.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    A false statement. Plenty of QBs were accurate at lower levels and not at the NFL level. The list is long
     
  8. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. Allen was already on that trajectory and was making leaps from year to year before Diggs even got there. Lazy people say that Allen was bad his first 2 years, which is untrue. After a not so great first year, Allen in his 2nd year went from like 10 touchdowns and 12 interceptions to 29 touchdowns and 9 interceptions. He lead his team to a 10-6 record and made the playoffs. After that season, Allen was voted a top 100 player by his peers - all after his 2nd season before Diggs got there. Cole Beasley, John Brown, Dawson Knox, Zay Jones, Robert Foster all had career years playing with Allen. After his 2nd year, Allen continued working on his mechanics in the offseason with Jordan Palmer, and everyone reported on the major progress made before Diggs got there. Any random receiver the Bills throw in there has a career day or year. Isaiah McKenzie was cut by Denver, rode our bench and was a 4/5th string receiver here. Once everyone ahead of him was injured, he starts a game against NE and gets 11 catches for 145 yards and 1 or 2 touchdowns. Gabe Davis, a 4th round pick from some random school, just scored 4 touchdowns last night. Even Diggs nearly doubled his production his first year playing with Allen. I say all of that to say, Diggs is not responsible for Allen's play - Allen is. Diggs is a great receiver and certainly helps, but Allen was doing what he was doing whether Diggs was here or not.
     

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