GM Interviews To Start This Week

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  1. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    I don't see us getting any of these supposed top tier candidates. We're going to have to look under a lot of rocks to eventually settle on a candidate who is most likely not on the radar at this point. None of these guys who probably envisions themselves as being successful GM material is going to throw away that lifetime of ambition to come here to do their best to turn around this dumpster fire only to be shown the door by one of the Johnson brothers in January of 2021.
     
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  2. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    The Vikings were 30th in rushing yards, but they were also 27th in rushing attempts. Whereas they were 6th in passing attempts. So they're a team that passes a lot. However, they were also 25th in rushing yards per attempt, which means they may have passed a lot because their run game wasn't good. Which I think was a combination of three things. First, their best running back is Dalvin Cook, who isn't anything special. Second, their O-line isn't great. And third, Cousins doesn't have a good deep ball, which lets opposing defenses stack the box.
     
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    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Vikings fired their OC, Think it was LaFleur?? Because he was too heavy on the pass during the season
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    They fired DeFillipo. LaFleur was the Titans OC last year.
     
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  5. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Who was a hot head coaching candidate earlier in the season lol.
     
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    How else can it be though? 87% roster control? I don't want any Jets coach too tied up with any sort of GM'ing or player personnel battles. Let him focus on coaching.

    Gase should be onboard with this because even with 100% roster control Gase is a strong willed guy and yea situations will arise where he's going to go to Douglas (or any GM) and ask if he can try to get player X that Douglas may not be totally sold on but sometimes you have to yield to the guy who's coaching the players and trust him with an assessment. Because there will be times when Gase is right and Douglas is wrong. Or where Douglas is right and Gase is wrong. Just the nature of things. Bottom line is they need to be able to meet in the middle, co-exist, and have a functional working relationship. And this wasn't happening with Gase/Mac
     
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    I think in order to ensure that he can't be blocked by the Eagles he has to be offered the GM job with 100% roster control - NFL rule.

    But while he'll have final say (presumably), he had better be working closely with Gase and trying to get him the kinds of players he says he needs. As you noted, this wasn't happening with Macc apparently and was a major reason why he was fired. IDK how a GM can operate in a vacuum without getting a lot of input from the CS. Which explains a lot in the case of the Jets.
     
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  8. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    That's correct Gase said he just wants to focus on coaching and help the gm. Gm has control of the roster. So this deal shouldn't be hard to complete.
     
  9. Jeti

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    Gase should outline his vision for the team and Douglas will then align that with his principles and begin building the roster around that.

    Give Williams his weapons on defense, make sure every player has the traits and skills necessary to thrive in their roles as we can’t have Williams retooling the defense year after year because we’re drafting guys who don’t fit .

    Our OL is gonna be nasty tho between Douglas and Pollack drafting and developing these guys.
     
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  10. endydee

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    I heard she wrote the message on the wall. She wrote it, she wrote it, for your GM call.
     
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  11. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Just hang a sign that says

    Adam Gase yes man wanted

    'Cause that's all this 'GM search' is.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Idk about his resume but that Vikings guy is really named George Paton? that alone puts him near the top of my wish list
     
  13. Jake

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    He told the Jets to fuck off in 2013 and 2015, not sure why they keep asking him to interview.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    if you really look at that article, though, like really read it and think about what you are reading - you will see its a joke. I mean pathetic journalism; where did this Tyler Calvaruso guy go to college??? they should be embarrassed. it looks like something you would read in a student newspaper where a kid is trying to get better at writing. its a 'fake it till you make it' article. And USA Today picks it up????

    Lets review:
    "Report: Joe Douglas Would Take Jets GM Job Only If Given Full Roster Control"
    https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/...-adam-gase-joe-douglas-roster-control-eagles/

    *Summary of Paragraph 1: Joe Douglas is the Jets' top target. (pretty much universally known prior to his writing)
    *Summary of Paragraph 2: A brief summary of Douglas' background (can be found via google search, was done even on this very forum prior to his writing)
    *Summary of Paragraph 3: "Philly will not let Douglas go.." which is already proven to be false as they are letting him interview. AND he finishes with something he got on twitter from a radio host. (he cited the radio host at least - kudos, you passed journalism 101)

    *Summary of Paragraph 4: His not-so profound opinion that it doesn't make sense for a guy to take the GM job if he can't make roster decisions. (DUHHHH)
    *Summary of Paragraph 5: Just more on Douglas' resume. (again found via google search)
    *Concludingparagraph: A not-so-profound fluff statement about how there are only 32 GM jobs but Douglas may or may not take the Jets' job. :rolleyes:
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    That's it. that's the entire article. Can anyone write something and get it picked up by USA Today?? holy hell that was trash
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    some geniuses are worth the wait.

    ok- wishful thinking :)
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Article isn't great, to be honest the headline grabbed me because I've seen this get mentioned on numerous occasions. The Eagles might block the Jets from interviewing if they don't offer this.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Its all good. It wasn't a shot at you for sharing it bro.

    I just cannot believe some of the articles people write these days. Its lazy. If that kid wanted to write something better, start with that tweet and investigate, find out if it's true. find out how much power they plan to give the GM, how close Gase really is with Douglas, etc... The tweet cannot be your entire article though, yikes
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Lazy journalism, if its not stupid remarks, it's useless information ...
     
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    It had widely been reported that Gase sabotaged Maccagnan in order to get his own guy in here. If that was true, I don't get this growing list of candidates and interviews with a prolonged process. "His own guy" should be sitting behind a desk In Florham Park by now. It leads me to believe Chris Johnson really did fire Maccagnan based on his own observations of how Maccagnan and Gase were to function going forward and decided change was better sooner rather than later since he better identified with Gase. Apparently there was no collusion. The longer this goes, the more worried I'll get because even if it was devious, I'd like to think Chris Johnson/ Adam Gase have a plan.
     
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    Jets don’t need to give final say over 53-man roster to hire an executive away from another team
    Posted by Mike Florio on May 28, 2019, 11:06 AM EDT

    As the Jets search for a new General Manager, one question becomes whether and to what extent interim G.M. Adam Gase will surrender control over the roster when a new G.M. arrives. Another question becomes whether and to what extent he needs to.

    The fact that the Jets have requested permission to interview at least four executives currently under contract with other teams implies that the job entails enough responsibility to permit the hire to be made; otherwise, the requests could be (and likely would be) summarily denied.

    The relevant league policy requires that, in order to hire an executive under contract with another team, the Jets offer “the primary authority over all personnel decisions related to the signing of free agents, the selection of players in the College Draft, trades, and related decisions; and . . . the primary responsibility for coordinating other football activities with the head coach.”

    The policy also includes this important language: “Final authority regarding the composition of the 53-player roster is not a requirement.”

    This means that the Jets can hire an executive under contract with another team without offering full control over the 53-man roster. As long as the job includes “primary authority” over the signing of free agents, the draft, trades, and other personnel decisions and “primary responsibility for coordinating other football activities with the head coach,” that’s enough.

    Basically, the paperwork needs to simply give the G.M. the requisite powers in writing. Whether “primary authority” means that the G.M. will have, hold, and use the ability to do whatever he wants without regard to what the coach or anyone else thinks doesn’t matter. Nine years ago, Vikings coach Brad Childress had the primary authority over the roster, allowing him to fire receiver Randy Moss on a whim. Doing so without properly consulting with others in the organization (including ownership) greased the skids for Childress’ own firing not long thereafter.

    Then there’s the 2008 Dolphins and 2009 Browns. In the former example, Miami hired G.M. Jeff Ireland away from the Cowboys, even though it was widely believed that V.P. of football operations Bill Parcells was calling the shots. In the latter, Cleveland pilfered George Kokinis from Baltimore, giving him authority in writing that coach Eric Mangini had as a practical matter.

    None of this stops the Jets from giving control over the 53-man roster to the G.M. Gase has made it clear that he doesn’t want it, and there’s a decent chance he means it. The overriding question continues to be whether the new G.M. will be someone who wants to work with Gase, or whether it is someone who walks through the door with a short list in hand of coaches the G.M. wants to hire, sooner or later.

    If that’s the case, the Jets are destined to endure more dysfunction, until the G.M. finally gets to hire one of the coaches found on that short list.
     
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