Yes I know, my point was that he actually *did* do good in that game. The way some have talked about that LSU game you'd think the guy just stood there and let anyone do whatever they pleased to him.
Where in my post did you get the impression that I want to draft McFadden? I take issue with players who are world-beaters in college due to simply being bigger, faster and/or stronger than their competition. McFadden and Gholston both fall into that category (although McFadden possesses a fews more intangibles than does Gholston).... Yes, skills CAN be coached up, and every college player needs to be coached up to an extent, but who knows how well these players will adjust to a league where they can't play the same way they have all their lives.... I prefer taking a player (like Revis last year, and Vilma in '04) who is very refined in his technique and shows great instincts, while having room to improve physically than vice versa.... I'm not sold on Gholston, and I'm not sold on McFadden.... Sure, some of these guys adjust to the pro game and end up being awesome players, but I don't like putting all my eggs in that basket.... Everyone in the NFL is a great athlete- yes, some better than others, but rarely to an extent that it makes a huge difference- But what separates the best players are Instincts, Technique and Intelligence... Those are traits I'm comfortable banking on....
I'm not sure showing about 3 pressures and one tackle in a game where his D gave up 38 points is really making your point. The fact is he has disappeared in many games during his college career, showing a highlight reel of about 4 plays that didnt impact the biggest game he has played in isn't going to change that.
1. Then you're missing the point. If you're only going to focus on what he didn't do, then you're missing alot. That is what many fans did. My point is that Gholston didn't sit with his hands on his ass all day. 2. So then does that make guys like JL, Freeman, Heyward, and Jenkins lesser prospects in the future? I mean afterall, they gave up 38 points in that game with Gholston, and disappeared/didn't make impacts in the biggest games they've played most recently? 3. How're those not impact plays? The first play blows up that play completely. In the second he's maybe an arms reach away from recording a sack, and either way that play is lost for LSU. Thirds one just him overpowering the RT again. In the 4th play he avoids the cut block, blows past another blocker, and pressures Flynn into an incompletion. In the 5th one the low motor, non-run stopping bastard beats a G to stop the run play. Those are all impact plays, you're basing it on whether they changed the result. Guess what? Not every play a good player will make will impact the game so much that they change the result of the game. Hindsight analysis will always get the thumbs down from me, unless it's telling me something I don't know. 4. Statistical proof that he disappeared in "many games?" Game tape proof? Seems like this is a favorite for people to say about Gholston, but I have no idea how they've reached that conclusion. I'd say it's impossible to remember every snap in every game and it's a load of crap, but thats me forgetting thats not how this kind of analysis is done. I'm guess the thought process is more..."Did they win? If they did, did he make any "impact plays?" Did I see him on the highlights right after the game?" Football analysis should be done snap by snap, play by play, and unlike baseball it's not easy to analyze just using the stats.
I think its funny how some people that say they can point to specific plays where they say that Gholston didn't try, then dismiss things like DWare did as just a few plays. Was he dominant at all times in the title game? No. Did he have great games every time out? No, no one does. But the amount of crap that he gets on this board for people saying that he doesn't try or disappears is insane.
Its the idea of since he's so highly touted as a prospect, if he doesn't destroy every offensive play he "disappears".... with that logic, every defensive player has disappeared in every game they have ever played.
Gholston was totally shut-down & ineffective against L.S.U., but LSU has some big future pro offensive lineman. In all fairness, he is outweighed & out muscled as a DE, but as an OLB in the pro's ...he's freed-up more to run to the ball & make plays. :up:
I have a question: When you are being game-planned against, so much so, that the ball doesn't come remotely close to you, would that constitute as "disappearing"? I don't watch college football too much, but when facing a talent like Gholston, you're sure to keep him in mind when calling plays.
Watch the video the guy is sooo explosive its rediculous he is 2 yards down field further than any player on his team, not to mention he overpowered the RT in one play. This guy is a beast and STILL raw, with proper technique this guy is gunna be unbelievable. Sorry but i don't think he lasts till the #6 spot.
Thats what i believe as well. There is a myth about he can't help in run support but someone posted a stat that when teams send the RB his way they average 2 yrds per attempt. Since college is different from the pros i feel that teams went the opposite way and Gholston will not chase end to end for the tackle. Most OLBs wont. His disappearance might be both. I think he takes a play off 3 snaps all game, but if they wont run to his side or double team him- it looks like he takes off 15 snaps a game.
