let's not forget that Geno was benched for a few games... That definitely skews his numbers... And the fluke miami game.. His numbers would look much worse.
Geno has shown development since getting benched. His last 4 games Geno had a 5:2 TD-INT ratio and registered more than 60% completion rate (60% and more than 7 YPA if you exclude the last Miami game, a feat Sanchez never accompished here in all his 4 years). Given how Geno played better over the games prior to Miami, it's unlikely the Miami game was a total fluke. Last season was only Geno's second season coming out of a pure spread college system. He still couldn't even drop back properly heading into this year, niy his improvements have been very small but noticeable if you pay attention (i.e. footwork and pocket presence). He needs weapons and a better line in order to show everything he has.
I added a few more QBs in the original post. I am not going to list all 20 stats they have for each guy. You can look them up yourself. I listed the most important ones, comp%, TD/INTs, and Rating. Fumbles figure into Rating, and are not as important for a QB as INTs. Running QBs like Geno are naturally going to have more fumbles than a QB like Testaverde who never moved from the pocket. If Testaverde had 6 + 35 INTs in his first two years, then he has 41 TOs in 2 years, same as Geno with fumbles, and that's only because Testaverde only played 6 games his first year. He was turning it over at a much higher rate than Geno. Nah, that's BS. His numbers would look much better if he didn't get pulled from the first Buffalo game after 3 INTs and nothing else, and then also if the first Miami game, the gameplan didnt screw him over. So it cuts both ways.
fools gold look at his last 4 games of the 2013 season 4 interceptions in 3 wins sorry not buying it. we need a new qb
Or Geno shows the most learning at the end of the year like a boy who is still growing is tallest at the end of the year. Like I said, this is only year 2 and Geno is yet again showing signs of development. He needs another year at least. If every team gave up on every QB at the end of year 2, some great QBs would have never been great. It's not like Geno is surrounded with a great line or weapons.
Geno has terrible mechanics and an even worse understanding oh his position. And he makes mistakes that lose the Jets games. I wouldn't even compare him to average coaches.
You show people stats and they say "i see with my eyes..." and then with their next post, they point to stats. So, basically, some have their mind made up. And that's fine. But I'd shore up the other obvious deficiencies in the passing game before I jettisoned Smith. A lot of people point to Sanchez, but conveniently forget his playoff performances, you know, when the Jets had a great OL and quality receivers. It was only AFTER the Jets OL started to suck and they took away his weapons that Sanchez's performances declined.
Actually, he's the third stringer behind Stanton, no? Seriously, has anyone in NFL circles (outside of the Jets organization) EVER said anything positive about Geno? I look back at the Steve Young's (et al) and only see eye rolls.
Actually, in many of the games I watched at the end of the season, the announcers, usually the color analyst, would say they saw Geno maturing. You probably missed it because it doesn't fit into your "Geno Sucks" mindset.
Well let's see: 1. Geno has a better arm than Sanchez 2. Geno has better touch that Sanchez on short passes 3. Geno is a better scrambler 4. Geno has had MUCH worse weapons than Sanchez in his first 2 years. Remember, Sanchez had very decent receivers his second year 5. Sanchez had a MUCH better OL. 6. The full QB destroying Rex had not fully emerged yet. Sanchez was still forced into a hyper conservative offence that put him in bad situations. but he did not yet have to deal with all the wildcat and direct snap nonsense which ruins his rhythm. 7. Both had to deal with Rex's defense "winning" the preseason, ruining any chance to develop chemistry with their receivers Geno is flat out more talented and a better thrower than Sanchez. Sanchez has better footwork. But the point is that under Rex it is impossible to know what either is really capable of. Way too early to give up on Geno, we still might have the franchise guy. He needs competition and we should draft a QB and sign a veteran, but the book on Geno is not over.
He is actually fourth string -- cut in preseason and signed off SD practice squad last month. Logan Thomas was third and he got injured as well.
Yea I know I'm aware,The fact that they didn't go out and sign a veteran weeks ago is stupidity on there part.How are you gonna let that bum start ,they could have grabed a veteran off the streets weeks ago
For me the Jets ruined Geno. If there was ever a player that needed time to develop and learn before playing - Geno is it. He needed to work on mechanics, footwork and introduced slowly to the NFL game holding a clipboard, like they used to do. He had no business starting in year 1.
Don't recall where I ever said Geno sucks, was seriously asking (as hinted by the "seriously" comment) where someone with some football knowledge (okay, doesn't have to be a Hall of Famer like Young) ever said anything positive about Geno. Sure, a commentator, or website poster, could see Geno maturing (or winning the last 4 games to pull 8-8 last year as a positive), but if you can cite something credible, I would sincerely like to see it, as I do not recall anything.
But he really didn't "shit the bed"; over the season he improved. Often, QBs take time to develop. And, often, fans don't allow them to develop before they start spouting negative clichés about them. Cause, you know, it's the easiest position to take. The announcers I heard say they saw some maturing were ex-NFL players. I remember hearing this and thinking, clearly they are just saying that because that's the story they agreed to go with in the pre-production meetings...
Okay, I was looking at those who actually started games for them. Third string, fourth string, they were screwed regardless.
