Read a little into that... The lore is that the Others attacked both CoF and First Men. They united to fight the Walkers in the War of the Dawn. It could still be that Walkers were created by CoF and then turned on their creators, like you're suggesting, but I don't think it's likely. I don't think Bran will be on the Others side. I think he will help defeat them "from within".
So essentially everything is Bran fault?... because he’s nosy? How the whitewalkers came to be was very underwhelming. Can someone tell why they want Bran so badly?
The time travel shit messed me up a little bit. I'm pissed there is an episode next Sunday. They normally do a week off when Memorial Day weekend comes around. I'm gonna be down the shore and won't be able to catch it.
No. Just posting on a message board saying how for the past 2 or 3 seasons there hasn't been an episode on Memorial Day weekend. It will probably be one of the least watched episodes
A lot to unpack from that episode. I did have a question: when the COF made the white walkers were they pushing obsidian into them? If so why does obsidian kill them? A little confused by that part. I'm not a huge time travel fan, I guess I don't mind "influencing" the past too much but it's a thin line. I've heard a theory before that everything is Bran's fault and that's seeming more and more likely to be the case.
Great episode...as expected Bran is the key. He probably can alter history but probable will lead to bad consequences. Also some great theories are out...Bran turned the mad king mad..."burn them all" I'll miss Willis aka hold the door aka HODOR
I'm so glad that all shows don't pander to holidays anymore. Back before the world of dvrs it made sense; a large amount of the population isn't going to be home so let's wait for them. But now that dvrs exist, people won't miss a show they just see it later. More shows should stop pandering to holidays and people that think the world should stop when they're busy. Not saying this is you but...
I'm not sure it matters for HBO since they don't run any advertisements/commercials during or throughout their shows, buT for other stations (AMC or Fx) wouldn't viewership be directly related to revenue? I don't know anything about how commercial slots are priced and sold but it just seems that they would be directly related. For example, the first commercial of the SuperBowl would be more money than the 5th, no? So why wouldn't the same be true for a new show or series being released? Why would anyone pay a premium price for that weekend if they knew the show was going to have a smaller amount of viewers because of said holiday.
I'm not in the entertainment business so I couldn't say for sure but commercials are recorded on dvrs and if the network streams it later, it also has commercials in it. Maybe ABC won't get a premium from Ford who is advertising during the original showing but it could then get a premium from Coke that is advertising on the streaming version. There are so many ways for these people to make money its redic and a lot of these people are just trying to figure things out. Example: what's a better business model, Hulu/Netflix that releases the whole series at once or Netflix when it released that James Franco time travel series 1 episode/week? It's not a perfect match for our discussion but merely an example. Looking at it from a viewers point of view, who is more inconvenienced? The viewer that watches something every Sunday who had to find something else to watch on a Sunday that the channel decides to skip or the viewer that for whatever reason can't make it in front of their tv to watch it live that Sunday. Scenario A, the viewer may find another show to watch and like it better thus costing the network a viewer. Scenario B, the viewer looks forward to when he can watch the show online/dvr and becomes an even more hard core viewer. I'm typing fast on my way someplace so I apologize for not proof reading and editing the post to make it more coherent.
These companies have to know that the people who DVR are not going to sit there and watch the commercials though. Any sane person who DVRs a show is fast forwarding right to the start of the show. I'm just salty that for almost 3 seasons they haven't played an episode on MDW and now they are. I wish they would explain why. Sorry for dragging this thread off topic. roach don't read any lower if you didn't watch the episode --> I liked the episode and am really waiting for them to get back to the ToJ scene. They kinda left us hanging there and now that the man in the tree is dead who knows if they will ever touch base with that again?
Thanks for the spoiler alert... I'd think that anyone that ownes a dvr doesn't watch live tv (or commercials) no matter when something is aired. Shows don't start at 8 ther start at 8:10. At least that's how I've done it when I've had a dvr. I'm glad they're showing an episode mdw. Instead of waiting a week, I can see it when I normally would. You should be glad too; instead of waiting a week you can see it Tuesday night as you get back to your routine. ToJ... We're probably done with that for a while. GOT is like good sex. A lot of teasing and a lot of violence.
The general consensus in the ASOIAF Nerd Factory is that Bran is immensely powerful and is only now beginning to realize a little of it, and that the CotF and Walkers are both drawn to him and to his bloodline. The Night's King was also a Stark, so was Bran the Builder and so have the kings of the most powerful land in the region, the North. The entire story is a sleight of hand by Martin to make you think the Starks are weak, beating that into you for 6 books (or seasons), and at the end they just take everything over and go to war with each other.
Its more of a looper timetravel paradox. He didnt alter the past, because hodor had been saying hodor for the past 30 years. So its more like time repeating itself. This isnt to say that Bran will eventually be able to change something in the past which would alter the future immediately. Think im more pissed they killed off another direwolf....only 1 left now
