Game 1 (Preseason) Take aways

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  1. Section 227. Row 5

    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    I am riding this post to my grave. "Stand me up at the gates of hell and I won't... back down... No I won't... back... down."

    No truer words were spoken about this so-called "competition." Competition? Sanchez the fuck up vs. a rookie?

    I mean, come on guys. Sometimes the best choices are right in front of your nose and you don't see them.

    GMac not only made the team last night, he looked like he could carry this team pretty fucking far.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You apparently have no idea how Bill Belichick coaches.

    Total shocker. The guy has his hands all over the offense since the departure of Weiss.
     
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    Section 336 Well-Known Member

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    I think you mean offense.

    Anyway, even if BB did turn is back, he still knows what the fuck is going on and if he didn't he wouldn't admit to it.
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I thought you used to play football, and here you are comparing height and weight as a measure of physical ability.

    The only pattern is their height and weight.

    Greg McElroni has a couple of sticks for arms and it shows when he tries to put velocity on the ball.

    This is what we call a research fail.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, that's what I meant. Edited.
     
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  6. laxin

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    Honestly think people are overreacting big time with McElroy doing pretty well vs players who may not even make Detroits roster...

    And its funny how people are saying "Sanchez vs a rookie"??!!!?!

    McElroy is only in his 2nd season, so its not like he's a great veteran.


    Since Shaun Hill looked better than Stafford, should the Lions have a "true competition"? McElroy looked good, but it was vs backups and backups' backups. The odds are strongly against him ever being more than very good #2 that can come in and win some games if needed. Thats what he was drafted to be, and it looks like he can live up to his realistic expectations.
     
  7. gustoonarmy

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    Likewise, McElroy played with players that will also not see any more NFL action.
    I don't know what some of you are looking at.

    abyzmul, sometimes you just try being too fucking clever for your own good..."can't see the wood for the trees"...that's you.
    You are to McElroy what Hobbes is to Sanchez, you make me fuckin' laugh, carry on.
     
  8. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    we really need to stop with mcelroy. even if he was by far our best QB he isnt somone you can contend with, has a low ceiling, and isnt worth keeping as anything but a 2nd-3rd stringer.

    sanchez is trash, but were stuck with him.

    Smith is an unknown, and at least worth seeing what he can do
     
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    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but I have to disagree with most of you, Yea Sanchez threw the pic six instead of taking the sack ,but he seemed to flow well in the west coast offense and the Td drive was pretty impressive against the ones not backups backups, Clyde Gates also looks like he took a step foward ,and the starting defense along with Millner looked good as well,The pick six was a flukey play the kid never broke free on the screen n he shoulda just taken the sack, if it wasn't for the td drive and some other nice throws he made to Gates,winslow,Cumberland I'd be trashing him like usual but he looked better on that drive then he did all of last season ,I actually like what I saw from Sanchez and I ain't gonna destroy him this time for the pic 6
     
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    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    You guys are ridiculous yea G Mac looked like he could carry the team ,meanwhile he was playing against the 3rd and fourth team defense and undrafted rookies ,we should cut this guy just so idiots don't want him to start because it's a joke
     
  11. Section 227. Row 5

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    Yeah, so you're making Mezz's point. Thank you very much!

    Why are we not including him in the mix? Please provide one good reason, besides your "odds are against him" opinion and Abyzmal's "sticks for arms" crap.

    You know fuckin'-A well he did good last night. Let's hear why he shouldn't be in the fucking "competition."
     
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    You know what's ridiculous?

    Your above statement!
     
  13. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    the throws he stuck were deeper routes. he isnt a good fit at all for the WC offense. he has always been a pretty solid thrower down the field, specifically outside the hashes.

    but, he cant throw a screen. not even exaggerating, he has like a an 20% success rate of even completing it. his short accuracy is just ok, and his decision making on short routes and 3 step drops is pretty poor.

    he is really better suited in a big play offense, where the potential reward evens out all his poor decision making and turnovers.
     
  14. southsidejet

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    For the posters doubting MacElroy throwing to 2's and 3's. The opinion seems to be that those players are shit. If they are shit and can't play why is Maclroy getting the ball to them? Seems to me tat he can adjust and put the ball where it needs to be.

    I'm not saying he can be a true talent however why is he not given a shot with a line, WR's and TE's who are thought to be better than our 2's and 3's he may surprise us. After all if better players can adjust and make plays it be may be that MacElroy could be a conduit to our better players

    Essentially my point is - if MacElroy can elevate the play of 2's and 3's he may be able to produce results with the 1's
     
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    1. I repeat. AGAIN. Probably I will have to repeat ad nauseum - but I digress.

    In WCO, YOU DO NOT NEED A CANNON ARMED QUARTERBACK. You need a smart QB that is accurate. You KNOW this is NOT Sanchez.

    2. McElroy played against 3rd string [and lower] defense. Ok. So did he with his teammates. His protection was god awful at times. The TD pass was all about McElroy - and you just know Sanchez doesn't have a prayer in that situation. It is these things that make a good QB. Not his draft status, not his cannon arm, and certainly not his turnover penchant.

    3. So McElroy is physically limited. So what? THAT WAS WHY WCO WAS DEVELOPED IN THAT FORM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Remember???? [How can people just forget these little easy things - I just have no idea.]

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    I am not saying McElroy should be the starter. I just don't see why he is not given his fair shot. He looked damn good with 2s and 3s - probably it's about time they looked at how he does with 1s. You never know.

    And he doesn't throw bone-headed picks a la Sanchez. That alone should warrant a fair QB competition.

    And as much as I would like to see Sanchez taking a beating this year [so Geno doesn't], I am more than fed up with that INT machine. If GMac can provide better bridge between Sanchez era and Geno era, I am biting the bullet.
     
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  16. southsidejet

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    On the offense I was concerned in the early stages of the game about the left side of the O-Line. Peterman seemed to be poor and Brick was not at his potential. Admittedly I thought the play improved and geling is vital given the changes this year

    Colon was ok but he got distracted after the handbag shit in the play before his false start penalty and ist maybe too amped wanting to prove a point.

    aside from Campbell who was not spectacular depth is a problem
     
  17. Swedish Ale

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    Straight from the writing pad, these are my notes from the game:
    • +TIGHT ENDS!
    • Winslow saved Sanchez from another pick 6
    • +MILLINER!
    • +Folk
    • There's still a lot to like about McElroy
    • #41 is to blame for the McElroy sack
    • What a surprise McElroy understands that even if the play breaks down and he's scrambling, he for whatever reason takes his chances with BOTH HANDS ON THE BALL before delivering an easy TD to Zach Rogers... very nice awareness from Bohannon on the play
    • McElroy still has that GREAT playfake
    • Zach Rogers looks non-flashy but dependable and reliable, comes off as consistent
    • Why do I feel most comfortable when McElroy's out there...?
    • Run defense still not as impressive as I've hoped for
    • Trufant having a solid game.
    • I think, personal opinion, that McElroy has played the game the most to MM's liking - this is how Marty wants his QB to play. Everything McElroy has done this game is going to the intended targets mainly rewarded from accuracy.
    • #21 has a rough game
    • It's still as true as last year; Offense > Defense
    • - Sanchez, took him 4 plays to throw a pick 6 intended for NOBODY (replay clearly shows his eyes were locked onto the area he threw to and there is no-one even there who could've caught it)
    • - Colon
    • - Peterson
    • - Ducasse is just clueless, absolutely zero awareness
    • - #75 to blame for the McElroy strip ball sack
    • Not as impressed with pass rush as hoped...
    • Not liking Geno's body language...
    • Landry is NOT his brother...
    • WHERE'S THE PASS RUSH?
    • Lions... ugly shirts as fuck
    • Ryan Malone is still be the best player at his position from 2012
     
  18. Br4d

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    The way that McElroy gets his chance is if the Jets have no other options for some reason or another. Then it's 50/50 he's carted off the field within a few games because he's not physically fit to deal with the rigors of an NFL field behind an average offensive line.

    The guy has gotten hit in the head twice now in very limited opportunities to play. He got a concussion the first time that is likely the first of several if he actually sees the field for any period of time.

    Look at the Jets QB situation the last two years. Do you guys really think the Jets are sitting on McElroy because they have QB handled and he's just another good QB?
     
  19. alleycat9

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    i think the mcelroni concussion last year was a hoax in order to get sancho back on the field. yes conspiracy theory.

    lets remember this is the same team that had tebone lie about being injured and he couldnt remember the play it happened on. or if it was specials or offense. then he smiled like a guy who was completely full of shit.
     
  20. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    The reason Mac will never be the starter (baring a double homicide) is because Rex drafted Sanchez and Idzik just drafted Geno. That's kinda where it all ends.
     

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