there is any torrent of the game of last night? i wanna see it again lol and pirate bay have all games beside the jets one lol
He was going to sign with the Cowboys for 2 million but decided not to do it. he said he did not want to leave the NY area and decided to retire. He also said he did not want to play for another team than the Jets. It seems he would be open to playing with the Jets this year and he certainly would be a big upgrade over Peterman and could allow Winters to sit and learn for a year.
See now...I have had it with this kind o' talk...so I did some research: Greg McElroy: Height: 6 ft 2 in Weight: 225 Jeff Garcia: Height: 6 ft 1 Weight: 205 lb Drew Brees: Height: 6 ft Weight: 209 lb Joe Montana: Height: 6 ft 2 Weight: 205 lb Doug Flutie: Height: 5 ft 10 Weight: 180 lb Do we see a pattern here? Gmac is as tall as the tallest guy and physically bigger. Similar arm strength except for Brees who has a small howitzer...not a cannon. BUT, what do all those guys have in common?? They WIN!!!! Garcia wasn't drafted...like Flutie he went the route of the CFL... Garcia wasn't given a shot in hell and it wasn't until he lit up the CFL did NFL losers see his value. Montana was average for his era but was still considered on the small side and most absolutely did not have much but a pop gun for an arm. Yet he is arguably the greatest in history. My theory is if you actually give Gmac the reps in practice and some pre-season time he would be COMPETITIVE. I've been in an NFL camp before and I'll tell you right now. The "slotting" you come into camp with is how you are treated. If you are undrafted you have to do something short of super human to be recognized. And, you better do that with the ONE play they give you or that's it. I can guarantee you that Gmac, other than that one game last year, NEVER sees time with the number 1's in practice....EVER. Well, if you are evaluating him based on work with number 3's in practice then you get what you get. Situations are cumulative as well...last year he was destined to fail in that one game. The Jets were a mess. The offense was a mess. Sanchez was completely ineffective and SHOULD have been cut in the offseason. The team has shut it down by the time Gmac got his shot. Unfortunately he didn't pull off the superhuman feat. Don't get me wrong folks I'm really not riding Gmac's jock. I have nothing invested for him to get a shot. It's just an example that happens all the time in NFL camps. Good players don't get a look because of preconceived notions. It's only glaring in this case because the Jets QB situation blows monkey chunks and they, not only need to turn over every stone in their own house (Gmac), but in the NFL to get a viable field general! I'm sorry but a viable 5th year QB does NOT throw a pick 6 to a D-Lineman on the first series of preseason while trying to toss a screen pass...a staple of the WCO by the way. Nacho's decision making...or lack thereof if the primary problem! Secondary is his inability to READ a defense...one of Gmac's supposed strengths! I say give all 3 an equal shot!
And then he promptly retired. You should keep the towel thrown in. There's absolutely no reason to think the result will be any different week 1 vs. the Bucs. Only difference will be the name of the d-lineman intercepting the pass and the booing Jets fans.
I agree 100% that's why I felt he had to put up a strong performance against the Chargers in order to be taken seriously. Unfortunately he had a subpar game (decent under the circumstances) but not enough to make the FO and the coaches be comfortable going into a season with McElroy competing for the starting job. He looks much better now than he did this time last year, and he SHOULD have been in the mix for the starting job.
Mezz I agree with pretty much everything you said. The reason GMAC does not get the chance is because he is a 7th rd pick. Potentially GMAC is a much better QB than Sanchez in the following attributes. Gmac has at the worst has equal arm strength with Sanchez in game but what appears to be a stronger arm. Sanchez might be able to throw harder in shorts but in game his velocity is not very good as he throws off his back foot quite a bit. Gmac is smarter Gmac can throw the ball down the field. Last night he attacked the defense and challenged them down the field unlike any Jet QB we have seen in quite awhile. Sanchez's stats are awful for passes above 15 yards or passes outside the hashmarks. Gmac can improvise and put touch on the ball - Can anyone with a straight face imagine Sanchez making anything out of the play GMAC turned into a TD? Gmac has better instincts and pocket presence GMAC is a playmaker. He makes plays out of nothing GMAC has better accuracy and throws a better deep ball GMAC is much tougher willing to sacrifice his body to gain a yard The problem is GMAC is raw and essentially a rookie with less experience than even Geno. While he has been on the team 3 years he has only played 1.5 games and has gotten virtually no practice reps in that time accept in pre-season. To illustrate that point when GMAC came into the game against Arizona he did not know the plays as he had not practiced all year so they improvised and had him roll out and keep on the move. It worked great for GMAC as he is an instinctive player who can avoid the rush. But against SD when he was playing with a concussion he had to play out the pocket and he got killed. The problem for GMAC is a catch 22 he needs game experience to learn but being a 7th rd pick no one will give him that time to learn as he is simply viewed as disposable. Watch GMAC in the pocket he has the instincts to move but he underestimates the speed of other players. He also hesitates and does not know how to slide or step in the pocket like a Brady or Manning. He often looks a bit confused when trying to negotiate the pocket. Being essentially a rookie it will take quite some time for the game to slow down and for him. He really needs half a year to a year of playtime to get a feel for the pocket and make improvements. And that is assuming he survives that playtime. With his penchant for putting his body at risk attacking defenders with his helmet I have doubts he will survive to learn. Sadly for GMAC he will likely never get that time. Last year was the perfect opportunity. He should have been given the rest of the year to play and learn after the Arizona game. From a coaches standpoint its almost impossible to play GMAC. He might be the best potential QB on the roster but Geno is the future and Sanchez from what I saw last night was improved and gives us the best chance to win in the short term. I say that with caution as Sanchez did not face rush last night and pressure has always caused him to self destruct. The best case scenario I see for GMAC is at some point he becomes a number 2 and then has the opportunity to get practice reps during the season and possibly fill in there is an injury. If given the opportunity he could be another Matt Robinson/Pat Ryan but I just don't see him getting the chance. At this point I just hope the kids gets his 4 years in to get his pension.
does anyone think that geno smith's play calling was more conservative because he was a rookie and MM wanted to ease him into the game? kid probably had butterflies like any other rookie and MM wanted to take some pressure off. next game i think he will throw more
You couldnt be more wrong. Gmac looked great against the guys not likely to be Lions, when the season starts.. He does not have equal arm to Sanchez, or Geno, who has the best arm of the three. And pocket awareness? He took 11 effing sacks in a single game. Sacrifice his body? Bad attribute for any QB. They had to COACH SANCHEZ. Out of the habit. Geno slides last night, he doesnt twist an ankle. GMac, could be like Pat Ryan. He was a great QB, but always stuck, behind more physically gifted players. Had MM come in and rehabbed Nacho, lastyear...thats probably whay would have happened for GMac. He is now in the unfortunate position, of being stuck, behind two more gifted players. But, he isnt going anywhere this year unless some team trades to have him as a backup. And let me ask a simple question....when has this team ever been so well stocked at the QB position? If Sanchez starts the season, as I think he will...we are no longer in a Vinny T moment, where its, oh shit...there goes the season. Or, when Penny and Fiedler went down on the Jacksonville game? Remember that feeling? I think we can win more woth Sanchez, this year...but I wouldnt cringe if Geno had to come in, or McElroy,
McElroy holds the ball like Ken O'Brien held the ball, only without that kind of body to take a beating. Or the arm to make the long downfield throw.
1. Sure. GMac wasn't facing #1s during his plays, but his protections weren't #1s either. Look at the fumble. It is squarely on the OL. 2. # of picks: Nacho - 1, Geno - 0, GMac - 0. 'Nuff said. 3. Maybe it's going to come hard for you, but you'd have to admit it eventually. Nacho's time is past. He is just too fucking dumb. I would really love to see what GMac can do in WCO - will suit him well.
Only one way to find out if GMac can play and it's going up against the 1's. Last year against SD was BS with an offensive line that was already in the offseason. We know Sanchez will score 7 to 14 points each game for the other team that's pretty much guaranteed. Geno may not be ready and if he's not why not give the other guy a chance rather than watch buttfumbles and passes in triple coverage get intercepted.
If you have problems finding it let me know i can upload the game later and pm you a link for the download.
the defensive line played well but the linebacker corp was disappointing (save for Harris who played well).
Rex put the LBs in some man to man situations Harris on Bush Davis on Sheffler Coples played some contain while Barnes was playing more rush Overall not bad
I agree, it wasn't bad but it also wasn't what I was hoping for (though probably had too high expectations) - also as it was so late here in the UK I had to give up at halftime - need to catch the second half (the beauty of NFL gamepass!)
