Yes i said either or bc they are both positions of need, O-line has too many holes and without certainty of Mangold coming back that needs to be rebuilt. and we can use a true stud #1 WR bc Marshall isnt getting any younger and the rest of our WR corp are nice pieces but none of those guys are even on the level of a TY Hilton, let alone a top tier WR Fournette wouldn't be bad but what RB can have success with a sub-par O-line?
Petty should play, I agree. You'll have to excuse me for thinking you were talking about Christian Hackenberg in a thread about Christian Hackenberg lol
Let me preface by saying I am still trying to learn the ins and outs of the QB position. But, I feel more confident in Petty than I do Hack. Im not just saying this because Petty has a year up on Hack in the NFL. Im saying this by looking at the tape, well all the videos I can find on youtube. So my opinion may just be false. I feel both QB's intangibles are great. Big, strong kids that have good heads on their shoulders and willingness to learn. Hack had the advantage of playing a much more complex system of multiple looks due to O'Brian and Franklin to a degree. So Hack may have that over Petty Where I seem to disconnect between the two is when I look at the highlight videos, I see Petty as the guy with the higher ceiling. Petty put up monster numbers at Baylor, he relied on quick, 1st read, screens and slants and no huddle offenses. Petty had his way with a lot of teams but the system was very successful. But Petty also carried himself in a way in which Hack hasnt, at least in my view. It could just be me looking to much into it but all the things ive ever heard of Petty was his leadership qualities, his willingess to learn and his patience. Now to finally try and make a point, when I watch Petty play, I see things I dont in hack. Escapability for one. When a play breaks down, Petty is able to flash his athletic ability to escape. Ive seen it on Hack, but ive seen him turn into a complete statue in the pocket. Hack simply folds under pressure sometimes, terrible line may be. But What I also sem to see is a lot of bailing out by WR's on Hack. He goes through his reads but a lot of his passes sail because he either throws off his back foot or by the time hes able to find his target, hes held the ball too long and ends up underthrowing his man. I feel like from an accuracy standpoint, Petty gets the edge. Dont get me wrong, both men are able to make the throws, the digs, the outs, the comeback, backshoulder, and go. But Hack does have the mental game. He probably is more ready than Petty was coming out of college due to the scheme he was placed in during his college days. His arm is capable of making all the throws (although, i would argue that Petty has just as good an arm) and hes clearly willing to learn. This isnt me trying to knock Hack, I want him or Petty to be the QB, but when I look at the two and compare them with how they interact both on and off the field as well as taking their game into account, I feel like Petty will be the more successful QB in the long run. Like I said, I love the game and I love the QB position and im trying to learn more about it and i could be completely off, but this is just how I feel looking at the two. Wow, this looks like a complete hit piece on Hack, hope ya'll dont take it that way.
I guess we should still fire Chan right? You guys want to know his floor yet you want to fire Chan the guy that is helping him develop.
Nah. We don't compete for SB's, only victories against the Patriots.. We have no interest in winning anything ever so why not keep Popeye at the helm. We can keep on drafting project Qb's since we'll draft high enough for a bluechip prospect. We'll never win or amount to anything, but we'll be the very definition of mediocre. yippie.
Its the unfortunate truth yes, but thats why I want to see the Jets do something different. Don't fire someone at the sight of adversity.
of course we should fire chan, the masses need their pound of flesh for this bad season and no flesh is better than o.c. flesh, which will bring us to the h.c. next year,rinse and repeat
Did I say that? Nope. However, look at this roster. Look at our record. Then look at the future outlook of this team. None of that shit looks remotely logical or good, at least with Idzik, we had a shit ton of cap space to play with. It's dumb.
After basically losing his head coaching job because of Fitzpatrick, Gailey was an advocate to bring him to the Jets and resign him so I definitely trust Gailey on evaluating QBs.
Exactly! Either you can overcome, or you can't. Coddling players is stupid. Red-shirt a player? Then he doesn't earn a dime until he hits the field and earns his position on the roster. To beat it all he was a reach and bad pick in the 2nd. Penn State sure seems to be better off without him this year. Our GM picked this guy to only pressure Fitz into signing with the team. Fitz and his agent obviously knew this kid was a dud. Hell he didn't even practice much. The game he played in the pre-season showed all I need to see for now.
Nacho had everything to succeed, Geno had very little. Nacho no longer plays this game, sucked in the beginning, sucked in the end. Was not an NFL QB no matter how much coddling you could give.
If the NFL was 7 on 7 Hackenberg might have been the #1 overall pick. The biggest issue with him in college was his ability to handle pressure. A QB needs to be able to stand in the pocket and keep his eyes downfield in the face of pressure. Hackenberg has a tendacy to watch the pass rush which is the worst thing you can do.
I wish more people understood this. Kid isn't raw because of his mental game. he can handle that. He's raw because his mechanics have been destroyed over the last two years under Franklin....who I believe is an absolutely awful coach for QB's. Not to say he's a star in the making, but geez give the kid a chance.
This is uneducated assumptions at its finest. I know you didn't watch him play in college after this vomit of a post.
False, if you read anything Gailey had no issue moving on from Fitz. Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk
If we threw him to the wolves, you Marys would be complaining that we brought him along too quick like we did with Sanchez and Smith. The team is building him from the ground up and working out the kinks before he goes into a real game. I swear that we have a bunch of pre-menstrual teens posting on this board. Grow a pair of testicles and stop quitting on your team.
