we are. look all i'm saying is this. We have a lot of issues on defense. that is pretty clear. there is plenty of bitching to go around for several players. I'm just saying ashtyn is one of the better performers on our defense right now. sure the bar is low and i'm not saying he's some superstar, but he's someone who is likely starting next year and that isn't an issue. we need a safety next to him, 2-3 new LBers, and some depth in the back 7 and an edge rusher. ashtyn is the least of our worries. thats my main point. our Lbers are trash and we aren't getting a rush with the front 4. Q can't beat double teams and nobody else is winning 1v1 on the line to get pressure. we need lawson back, we need JFM to step up more and we need to draft an edge rusher with our 1st pick and then start filling out LBers and safeties with the other picks. and throw in a RG and possibly RT and a TE or 2
it's essentially this (just look at the blue only and ignore the red and yellow) it's 4 flat zones protecting against the short pass. 5 rushers, and 2 deep. They show cover 1 heavy blitz man, then drop back into a cover 2 zone blitz. cover 2 means 2 deep, it's a nickely blitz, and 4 man zone so it's a cover 2 zone blitz which i'm sure they have a more specific name for it but the generic would be a cover 2 zone blitz. this guy explains it really good the only difference from our play to this video is that the SS covered a short zone wile the RCB covered the deep zone. funny enough this play here is what dunn through we had called. I don't think it was cover 3 because hall would have dropped back more if it was as the LCB
there is a good chance maye and joyner are both gone and davis takes maye's spot as the FS and we draft or bring in a SS. If we do bring maye back it's likely maye and davis start
But Ashtyn doesn't go towards the blue circle I assume we are saying his zone. He backpedals straight back in between the hashes then books it to the other side of the field when he sees the breakdown. I think I've watched this play about 30 times now. I agree though, we have the worst linebacker and safety room in the league. I personally don't think he should be a starting safety, but they may roll him out there one more year. He would need to have most improved player of the year type of improvement though for him to stick if we add some quality vets or high picks.. IE he gets a chance to hold the job but loses ot
Saleh is going to want an upgrade and Joe D isn't going to want to lose more games & lose his job over a crappy safety
for whatever reason nfl.com isn't letting me rewatch it right now. their system must be down but i'll go back and look. only thing i can think of is with 1 WR on his side he was playing that WR who went in so no reason to overcommit to the side with nobody near it yet
LBers are a bigger issue. sherwood is young and missed most of the eyar. mosley isn't it. quincy is a nice depth guy but not a stater. cashman is always hurt. jarrad davis sucks and likely isn't resigned. the LBers are a mess right now. we also need another edge rusher too. saleh has always built his defense on the front 7 and not so much the back 4. and JD is very much in the school that games are won in the trenches.
Man this thread has gone on way too long for one freaking play! I think we’ve shown that Davis was not responsible for the deep right zone. He tried to get over there once the play happened but was too far to get there in time to stop a TD. I also think that Davis, while not the worst player on our D, has not played particularly well and despite his speed, he doesn’t make a heck of a lot of plays. I’d love to upgrade the spot. I think we need DL and especially LBs more, but I don’t think he’s a very good safety. At least not yet. our defense is playing like what it is…a bunch of low draft picks and free agent castoffs, and a lot of rookies. Not a lot of talent on D, especially after losing Lawson and Joyner. Would be nice to have Huff back too. but I think we’re seeing that Quinnen, while a nice player, especially if surrounded by at least some talent, is not yet a dominant player. He is no Donald that’s for sure. I think with Lawson drawing attention and another pass rush threat he’d be very good, but on his own, which is what we’ve had here for weeks now, he can’t do it.
To my knowledge the coverage you are describing doesn’t exist. The RCB would not be able to get into position to cover a half field from where he starts, any Post + Go Route Combo on either side would completely devastate that coverage for a TD. In Cover 3 the Boundary CB’s often have to play as if it’s man unless another receiver enters their deep zone. That’s why: 1. Dunn sticks to the outside receiver, it’s not that he didn’t know the coverage he just lost the receiver coming from the middle into his zone that would force him to drop all the way back. 2. Hall doesn’t drop all the way deep, because there is only 1 receiver on his side of the field. Cover 3 has some Zone Match concepts built in.
Quinnen could be a top 5 DT and still not put up stats with the crap around him. There is only 1 Donald I’m the league, and the drop even to the 2nd best DT is massive. I basically agree with what you’re saying, I’m just saying expecting a Donald type of player in Quinnen was never going to happen. I’d be ecstatic if he’s a Fletcher Cox or Cam Heyward level player.
Quinnen’s an elite DT by all the metrics. He just plays in way less snaps…which I really don’t have a clue besides guessing and saying that he wants to keep the DLine fresh. But he doesn’t play 75-80% snaps like the elite guys. He’s only around 60%…and before we say “conditioning”, I’m pretty sure the whole starting DLine plays around 60% of snaps.
Quite frankly, we wasted entirely too many responses over one play where the CB really blew it and a few that hate Davis think the safety should have ad lib and broken stride, without even knowing the defensive call, fly from the opposite side and prevent the TD. Fuck me with this BS. That’s why I think BB is the best HC ever. Number one rule, do your fucking job. Period. Second rule, do your fucking job. Let’s stop looking for excuses to make a point because of personal preference.,
It's so strange that every time the play is dissected again, the Dolphins score a touchdown. Why don't we talk about why teams are rolling us every week...
Well, the whole thread is about studs and duds, and there's a disagreement about one of the players listed as a stud. What exactly does your post have to do with the point of the entire thread? That Bill is a stud? Also, nobody said he should have ab libbed.
beat writers should ask why Q isn’t playing as much or in general why these hockey style line changes occur?
