All I am saying is that trading down and still getting Howard at 20 is POSSIBLE. I get what everyone is saying about Howard being such a great player. I get the generational player type talk? I think he's an excellent pick. I just think if Mac plays his cards right, he COULD still trade down (to exactly where I don't know? Have to see as we get closer to the draft and what is being said about Howard) and get Howard. It's not out of the realm of possibility. He just satisfies so many needs for a team in particular like the Jets? He's a legitimate TE, something the Jets have not had for a long time now. He's also an OL, a huge area of need for the Jets. He's a guy you can leave in during running plays to assist in blocking. He's a BAP type depending on where you take him? He's definitely the guy I want Mac to target. Now, like I said, I don't think Howard would be great value at #6 at least from what I've seen thus far, but if the Jets could trade down and still get Howard? I would be on cloud 9...........