actually,you couldn't be more wrong. The Israelis have been terrorizing the Palestinians since the end of ww2. read up
Arabs have claims to the land because in modern history,they are the only ones who can be physically traced to it. Jews claim it because of THEIR religious belief,which could be as relevant as Frodo throwing a ring into fire. So yeah,people have always been pissed.
do you have idea of the acts the Jews did to the Palestinians during that time? AT all? And you would be surprised how many Americans think the way I do,but have been backed into a corner and taught not to speak. But things are starting to change. People are starting to wake up to the fact that ONLY the us pledges full support to Israel and the rest of the planet has a problem with it. Wonder why that is, They must all be wrong.
Come on, really? You know if there are people in here that still believe Sanchez is a decent QB, they probably still believe in Santa too. For shame.
Hey look, Captain Profundo is making another amazing point. I suppose that attempting to hijack a thread into yet another Sanchez argument is your idea of intelligent repartee. Why is this douche still here?
Excellent post, I know quite a few Jews who question Israeli motives. They claim that Israel's motives in the West Bank do not represent Judaism. I'm not Jewish so I have no idea if that is accurate or not. I know when I was there I couldn't tell you the difference between a Jew and one who was not. I just was told to avoid certain areas at certain times of the day and went through a metal detector to go into a shopping mall in Tel Aviv. As I tried to exit I had to wait as the armed guards at the doors told me there was a potential car bomb in the area.
It appears Joe Kaufman, the author of the original article is now pushing his agenda in the NYDN (Comments)- http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ter-article-1.1396764?localLinksEnabled=false JoeKaufman My name is Joe Kaufman. I wrote the original piece that was published in FrontPage Magazine detailing NY Jets player Oday Aboushi’s extremism and the hate and terror associations of the group he was a featured speaker for (at one of the group’s annual conferences). Everything in the article is 100% true and is backed up with source material that anyone can see by clicking on the many hyperlinks in the piece. I cannot stress enough that the piece was written not because of Aboushi’s Middle Eastern heritage, but because of his actions. Much that has been reported following the publication of my article is false, so please take the time to read the original by clicking the following link... http://tinyurl.com/m6erhm4
That's cute. Koffglob is such a respected writer that he has to respond to an article referring to his steaming pile of text turd by posting in the comments section. Does anything else really need to be said about this? It is thinly veiled hate speech by an obvious racist. Not even worth a second thought. Much ado about doodoo.
Uh, no. “Americans’ sympathy for Israel is at a high-water mark,” determined a March 15, 2013 Gallup poll. According to Gallup, there is “a steady increase in relative support for Israel over the past decade…. Americans’ sympathies lean heavily toward the Israelis over the Palestinians…. Today’s 64% (compared to 12% sympathizing with the Palestinians) ties the highest Gallup has recorded in a quarter century, last seen in 1991 during the Gulf War.” You are apparently as ignorant re: trends in American politics as you are regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. You have yet to make an accurate, let alone engaging, point in this thread. You should really take a breather. You very obviously have nothing to add. Ignorance is an ugly thing, but never so ugly as when it's bandied about in triple posts.
By the way, for what it's worth, that article was highly ridiculous and though Aboushi may have some extremist associates, he hasn't done anything to justify claims that he himself is an extremist or an anti-Semite. It is unreasonable to conflate Palestinian nationalism with terrorism and anti-Semitism. You cannot throw a stone in the Palestinian world without hitting an anti-Israel extremist. Unfortunately, that's the reality of the situation. It's not just the Palestinian world, it's the entire Middle East. Egyptian Islamists have already blamed Israel and the US for Morsi's overthrow, even despite the fact that the Egyptian military was flatly responsible. Israel has been demonized to the extent that they are blamed -- and hated -- for everything that happens in the Arab world, whether or not it even benefits them. That being the case, essentially any Palestinian activist is going to have tenuous ties to an organization or a conference or a charity that has some connection to terrorism or anti-Israeli propaganda. It doesn't make them a terrorist or an extremist, it makes them a part of a broader framework that they can't control. Aboushi should be held responsible for his words and actions, but not for the company he keeps. So long as he is not actively supporting or advocating anti-Israeli violence, his activism within the Palestinian community is not problematic.
Nope. But given the sample sizes they use, any one person's odds of being sampled are minuscule. They typically use 95% confidence with a margin of error of 4%, which means ~1000 respondents. Out of 300 million. Odds are better to win a few major sweepstakes.
Oh brother. A Gallop Poll to make a point? You know,where we grab 10 people out of a billion(8 possible Jewish) get 6 out of 10 to claim they support isreal,then put on the news how 60% of Americans support Israel. Lol. Is Ignorance another brand for those who don't pledge full support for Israel? Because I can fill the page with plenty of facts to back what I said,or you could just look it up yourself before posting next time.
Apparently you are statistically ignorant, as well. 95% confidence interval means, well, 95% confidence interval for the population in question. Needless to say, a poll comprised of 80% Jews would not carry a 95% confidence interval for the entire American public. Per Gallup: "Samples are weighted to correct for unequal selection probability, nonresponse, and double coverage of landline and cell users in the two sampling frames. They are also weighted to match the national demographics of gender, age, race, Hispanic ethnicity, education, region, population density, and phone status (cellphone only/landline only/both, cellphone mostly, and having an unlisted landline number). Demographic weighting targets are based on the March 2012 Current Population Survey figures for the aged 18 and older U.S. population. Phone status targets are based on the July-December 2011 National Health Interview Survey. Population density targets are based on the 2010 census. All reported margins of sampling error include the computed design effects for weighting." But hey, I'm sure you've got a better sense of the American public. Like I said, ignorance is ugly. It's even more ugly when you feel the need to parade it about.
Your analogy is simply nonsense. These missiles are being supplied by foreign governments to a Para-military wing of the elected government of a foreign government lobbing the rockets into Israel. They are supported by the civilian population who considers the dead martyrs. This isn't about religion or moral superiority, it's a war. If these Para-military groups were able to get weapons that could kill 10's of thousands of Israeli's they would. That's one of the reasons the occupation continues to be as harsh as it is. Israel is a Theocracy but it is not operated as a theocratic government in the sense Iran is. While the religious have power in some areas as part of a coalition government they have little say in areas of national security. Israel's defense is as secular as it gets.
LOL- The Jewish press argues these issues as does Israeli politicians and public on a daily basis. You can go into any Reform Temple in the US and these topics are debated on a regular basis. Israel is routinely condemned by liberal circles in Europe and Neo Nazi organizations in the US and around the world. They are routinely condemned in the Western press, the UN and around the globe. The fact that this article has no cred and there are Jews who support the horrible conditions that have been created in the occupied territories and the annexation of what should be part of the two State solution doesn't mean these topics aren't debated openly, saying they aren’t is the typical lie. Many of the anti-Israel factions are in fact Jew hating scum and deserve to be challenged for what they are and condemned. If you can't separate the two that's your own issue.
Your description is a gross mischaracterization with no basis in reality. In reality, according to statistics that the Israeli government and multiple Israeli NGOs vehemently contest because they argue they are far too harsh, 41% of Palestinian casualties since the Second Intifada have been combatants. And that's a number the Israelis seriously contest -- that's the bare minimum. 96% of Palesinian casualties are male, and the vast majority of their "dead civilians" are males in their mid to late teens. This is consistent with non-random killings and it is highly likely that at least some of these teenaged males are, in fact, combatants. But even taking 41% at face value, you are essentially getting 4 combatants per 6 civilians. That is an extremely high level of precision in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet. That is far greater precision than our American military exhibits in Pakistani drone strikes, for instance. It is greater precision than Palestinian attacks on Israel, as well. Your nonsense about the difference between targeting innocents and collateral damage is just that -- nonsense. Israel has the military might and technology to eradicate Palestine. They exhibit extraordinary restraint. In the entire history of Israel, since 1948, about 20,000 Palestinians have been killed. That includes combatants, terrorists, civilians -- anyone that has been killed by Israel. As a point of comparison, more than 5 times that many have died in Syria in the past 2.5 years, including far more non-combatants. If Israel wanted to overreact and vaporize innocents by the hundred, collateral damage be damned, as you claim, they could and they would. But they don't. They kill relatively few Palestinians for a conflict area, they absorb thousands of rockets on an annual basis, and they are hyper-vigilant about keeping civilian casualties low while making every effort to prevent attacks on their homeland. Israel isn't perfect -- far from it. Their policies re: settlement suck and it's hurting everyone in the region, themselves included. But their military is consistently held to standards that don't exist for anyone else. No other country is asked to suffer daily foreign attacks without striking back. No other country is taken to task for such relatively low casualties and such relatively low civilian death tolls. We have killed a far greater total number and proportion of civilians in Iraq and in Afghanistan than Israel has killed in Palestine in the past 15 years. Syrian civil war? More casualties, higher percentage of civilian casualties. Darfur conflict? More casualties, higher percentage of civilian casualties. Libyan civil war? More casualties, higher percentage of civilian casualties. Really almost any major conflict area will demonstrate a higher number of casualties and a higher percentage of civilian casualties than Israel/Palestine has yielded in over a decade, combined.
