I was just trying to be nice. If we end up going that route which is unquestionably the worst route, I’ll be rooting for whoever the backup is to outplay him from day one.
For whatever reason we chose not to put a tender on John Metchie. That means he’s an unrestricted free agent. I understand he had some really rough moments but on a team with two NFL caliber wide receivers I don’t see why we wouldn’t be bringing back one that showed some promise. I guess they have plans, or they think Isaiah Williams is the best slot option available.
I don't like this thinking ..to lose draft status..for the NEXT YEAR QB?? JUST KEEP LOSING TO GAIN NOTHING?
The season? Tua is one hit away from the grave, or, at the very least sucking his dinner through a straw for the rest of his life. That guy got PAID, if I were him I'd retire and find a beach somewhere. I want none of the shitty karma that would come from him being on the Jets and becoming a damn quadriplegic! This team has enough to overcome without having that kind of energy kicking around.
I’m not in the camp of not having at least a somewhat capable NFL QB again this year. Last year was a joke.
Last year we had what was considered League wide as two capable QBs. Fields was considered low end starter/high end back-up and Taylor was considered high end back-up. He was making more than Brissett. Similar type of guys that are available now really. Hopefully we will get a bit luckier and also coaching on the offensive side will be better. It helps that we no longer have a RB as a QB coach. Also hopefully Reich will be better than Tanner.
I've heard a few rumblings that Spencer Rattler, might be someone that could be of interest to the Jets... Thoughts?
Depends on what the Saints want in return. I’m thinking they should trade for Brissett as the day one starter….pick up another QB for back-up whether it’s a FA or another low key trade and then draft a QB somewhere after the second round …. Rattler may be a good back up he wasn’t that bad for the Saints. It appears Shough showed a little more and is the future for the Saints but that doesn’t mean Rattler can’t come to the Jets even as a decent back up. So again I’d be for it as long as the Saints don’t ask for too much.
I don’t know about this low end starter high end back up consideration. By whom?. He is neither, but a glorified running back that is completely unable to process information and find open receivers as a QB. Let’s see where he goes next if anywhere. We had no QB behind center, period. Brisset is head and shoulders better, and last year arguably played better than Murray. If it’s not too much to ask I want a place holder that is good enough to at least give us a chance and capable of playing the QB role. Im absolutely not in the start the tanking theme after game six BS like last year. Tanner by the way did not stand a chance as a rookie OC with a simply really bad QB. Unplayable. Reich will get the best out of whomever we get. I don’t expect miracles but 6-7 wins minimum and the team pointing in the right direction.,
Fields was a lottery ticket, had question marks for long term success, because he lacked pocket production, but he wasn't a total shmuck people now make him out to have always been. See below, rankings indicate low end starter to high end back-up. Pitt offering 20 mil to keep him. I don't think you will find too many articles saying the guy was total shit when we signed him. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...gent-signing-qb-justin-fields-running-ability "Since 2021, Fields ranks 29th in Total QBR and 34th in completion percentage over expected. He did show some subtle improvements in Pittsburgh -- he was 17th in EPA per dropback when he was replaced by Russell Wilson -- but he still has many naysayers who question whether he can be a long-term answer because of his lack of production from the pocket." Same with Taylor, who was a high end back-up. Heck the reason he was signed is because Woody kept saying they had no QB when Rodgers was hurt and stupidly kept failed regime, which then signed top back-up QB. Tyrod was rated as a good back-up and got paid more than Brissett. As far as Tanner not having a chance, I disagree. He had a good OL, very good RB, #1 WR, and solid TE room. Just that alone should have yielded in better production. Yes even when Fields was benched we did not get much better. Remember when Cook came in, Taylor was not exactly having a game of his life. lol. The more I think about, the more I like Glenn's decision to move on from Tanner in favor of Reich. Yes Reich could fail, but perhaps we need to strive better than C+, which is what Tanner was here at best. And also we found out later he was not considered for other OC openings either, including Ben Johnson's and Campbell's. who had openings in 2026 as well. I certainly hope we don't have to start the tank after 6 games next year, like we had to do last year going 0-6, and I do want other QBs. We also hopefully have better coaches, though you never know. My point is, do we want to give anything more than a 6th round pick for Brissett when we can probably get one of Trubisky/Geno/Murray/Mariota without any dropping any picks for this one year rental?
I do agree with a lot of your points, as to your question, since our draft performance in the lower rounds is often suspect, I would be willing to go higher than a sixth if Brissett is considered by Reich our best candidate. If he is a toss with others available comparing total expenditure then that is a different story. Murray might fall to us with essentially no money in year one, but can Reich make it work? If a good potential candidate can be freed with a 4th I’m good if he can make a significant impact.
Unfortunately I just don't see any available candidates who can make a significant impact this year. As @mezzavo pointed out, this may be the worst year to get a QB. We have #2 pick in 1 QB draft and the options available both via trade and free agency are very uninspiring. I mean you could name probably 20 different QB options off the top of your head, and they all stink. That's why I want to take one that stinks no worse than others but with least assets given away for this rental. If and only if Reich thinks Brissett is so much better than everyone else though, sure, let's give the Cardinals our comp 5th
Giants beat guy linked Bobby Okereke to us. Certainly not against it. The LB room needs an entire makeover especially if we’re moving toward 3-4. Anzalone OLB Okereke ILB (Mike) Sherwood ILB (Will) Reese OLB I can get down with that. Massive upgrades.
You guys pining to give up a pick for Brissett realize his play/production was a lot more centered around being a good fantasy football stat padder last year then a QB type you can bank on helping to win his team games, right? If Reich brings in Brissett and has him throwing the ball 40+ times a game like last year I'll probably just throw in the towel on any expectation of this team ever figuring it's shit out on the offensive side of the ball If he's not throwing the ball 40+ times you are probably looking at the 2024 Patriots version of Jacoby Brissett here in NY. Who might be 50/50 to throw more TD then games played. Justin Fields with an actual NFL level OC in the coaching room from day 1 of training camp can probably give us that imo.
Hughes throwing out there this morning that Carson Wentz is very much in play for us. That’s just an all-around terrible decision and I can’t justify a single part of it. If he’s here it better be as a back up and pray he never has to take a single snap.
