Players like that are looking for one more big payday before they hang it up. With the premium on pass rushers and there only being two available I don't see him taking any less than $9 million or so a year. Hali + keeping Wilk takes this defense to another level.
I'm throwing Victor Cruz in the mix. I expect him to be cut with the cap hit he is due. He will have something to prove and I expect him to bounce back. Another good character guy added to roster. I expect him to take Kerley's spot.
Idk, just sounds too good to be true... 1. Browns have control over his contract til 2017 since 2 of his years under his deal were stripped from him (not sure why they aren't counting the 5 game season as a season under his belt but whatever) 2. What are we trading? I doubt the browns wanna give up their only good player for a late round pick even though that's all he should be had for. 3. I think if we get in any trade talks with the browns it should be to swap Sheldon for Joe Thomas and that 32nd pick.
I don't know about being so pessimistic. I guess it all depends on how much the Browns see him as part of their future, but unless they are invested in that, they would go for a deal at the right price. Meaning a fair price that does not have to overcome their really wanting to keep him. I know that sounds vague, but the point is I am not sure there is enough here to be really pessimistic at this point. Perhaps the Jets FO makes a call and finds out more info. Maybe we will hear more about this.
I would lose my mind... i'd be one of the happiest fans in the world just doesn't seem like a move we'd make. it's far from a need.
Yeah it would take around 8 to 9M a season to sign him. I think Hali would have to be an afterthought after Wilk and Fitz. I would easily let Snacks go if we could get Hali.
Interesting, but I don't think we have the money to pay him even as a direct Kerley replacement. Anybody know what the cap savings for Kerley is?
The Jets as of now are not set with a solid threesome at wideout. Sure Marshall and Decker are one of if not the best twosome in the business. But the Jets O would be a lot more dangerous with a reliable 3rd. So it's not a need, but it sure would be nice.
It's around 2M. No one is going to pay Cruz the 7.9m he is due this year (it's also a 9.9M cap hit for the Giants). He is going to have to work out a prove it contract as well. 99% Cruz reworks a deal with the Giants. However, if he gets free the Jets should look hard at him.
It's fun to dream about, but like you say, probably isn't going to happen even if he is affordable. I'm not so sure that Marshall would be the perfect person to take Gordon under his wing. Did Marshall have a substance abuse problem? If not, that's a different beast. I know enough about those with addiction issues, that it doesn't matter how much you try to help them, surround them with positive role models, mentors, etc., that until they realize they have a problem and want to change, they're not going to, and even then many fail to change. The addiction is just too powerful. It's sad. I have a very good friend who was a cocaine addict. He kicked that, then became an alcoholic. He kicked that, and now he has to be very careful. He has gotten addicted to many medicines and Diet Coke (caffeine). It's a chemical thing in his body. Even though he is free from being addicted to any substance at the moment, it could happen again any day, and it still causes him to behave in an erratic and irresponsible manner at times. Even if Marshall would be perfect, I just don't see Bowles and Mac wanting to take on major distractions and character risks like that.
I know the Browns' owner is a nut job, but why would he trade his second best player and the 32nd pick for a player with character concerns and who may be suspended for 4-8 games next season?
Regarding offensive skill positions, I'd take either another WR with speed or a speedy TB who can catch. The Jets offense is good but still lacking that one more explosive playmaker. Hell I'd even be open to a strong receiving TE here (think Kelce on KC) but those are so hard to come by and rare. I'd love to see them get an explosive weapon on offense. No more projects who didn't do shit at the college level. Just look at some of the rookie WR crop this year who blossomed late in the season.
I personally want us to cut Ferguson, Winters, Breno, Cro, Kerley, and Cumberland. That would free us up an esitmated 24-25M in cap space. Then let the revamp of the 0-line begin!
Joe Thomas wants out. Their run defense has always been blatantly garbage.. and honestly i think Sheldon due to his age is worth more than Joe Thomas and a 2nd round pick but his character concerns kinda makes it a good deal IMO. If Sheldon had a clean slate we'd be talking about more than that 32nd pick. "we want ALL the money!" *Sheldon voice*
The problem with cutting Ferguson is who is going to replace him? Aside from the top two OT prospects, the OTs just aren't there in this draft. I don't see it as making too much sense to cut Ferguson and then sign Thomas for probably close to, if not more money than Ferguson and Thomas is only a year younger than Ferguson. And that's IF we weren't outbid for Thomas' services. If we did that, Thomas and his agents would have us over a barrel and they'd know it. We'd be paying $15-$16 million for Thomas' services and that would defeat the purpose of cutting Ferguson. There aren't the RT prospects in the draft, either. Besides you never want to go into the draft HAVING to find players at certain positions. Every other team would know our dire need, and we'd be at their mercy. If Mac cut Ferguson, Winters and Breno, the Jets would probably go 0-16 next season and every QB we have would wind up on IR. Sorry, but that's just not realistic or rational. I'd love to replace all three of those players, but I think we'll be lucky to see one of them replaced. I think Winters is the most likely to be replaced in the starting lineup, but since he's still on his rookie contract and cheap, he'd still be the backup RG. Kerley and Cumberland should go to clear some cap space.
I disagree. Even as much potential as Sheldon has flashed, he's not worth more than a Pro Bowl, if not All Pro LT. Even straight up for a draft pick and sans the character issues, I'm not sure the Jets would get more than the 32nd pick for Richardson.
They wouldn't save much on Winters I believe. Plus I find it hard to imagine they would cut both of Breno and Winters. Not that cutting Breno is a given, either. I still think it possible that they redo Cro's contract and he comes back. Just at a lower number.
