For all this talk about the Patriots weapons, what about our offensive threats?

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  1. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    What amazes me is that over the course of the season the Pats offense only averaged 13 yards a game more than we did (364 vs 351) ... so how the hell did they manage to score 160 more points??? Has to be all about the turnovers.
     
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    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    I like McKnight's potential but I still don't trust him to not fumble the ball. A miracle victory will only come with flawless execution and that means we can't turn the ball over... not even once. Not one time.

    Everything has to work perfectly and yes, we'll need some luck. Winning this one is a possibility, but we've got to go with the known-reliables we have and hope for the best.
     
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    That and Red-Zone efficiency.
     
  4. ManlyGenius

    ManlyGenius New Member

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    And burning down the clock when you're winning games big. The cardiac-kid Jets got a lot of yards late and in OT games while the Pats were frequently going conservative after generating huge leads.
     
  5. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I think we're going to go with more d-backs again leaving McKnight out.
     
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    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    This is why I say it's all about confidence. Sanchez has to get the last Pats game totally out of his head. But even moreso, he's got to get his head in a place it hasn't even been before. He's got to convince himself he can do this on a whole other level. That means starting out from the git-go by delivering accurate, catchable passes and not sailing them over their heads and at their ankles, etc.

    If Sanchez can pull this off, it takes him to the next level we're looking for. If not, we have to wait until next year to see that. It's all about Sanchez at this point. I know others will argue "it's a team sport" and all that (and it is), but right now it's all about El Guappo and getting his confidence up to KNOWING he can lead the offense down the field and score points right from the beginning of the game.

    Will that happen? Only Sanchez knows that. It's all about becoming "El Guappo," the Confident One.
     
  7. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    Sounds reasonable ... except Belichick never seems to go conservative. We've all seen Brady still in the game, throwing passes late in the 4th quarter with a 20 point lead. Scumbag.
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez has a history of playing poorly when coming off a bye week or long periods of rest. If you look at his second half you saw a different QB. He also has a history of sucking in Foxboro, so ...
     
  9. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Yes we have good weapons. The thing is we need to play flawlessly on offense to even have a shot in this game. No dropped passes, no interceptions, no fumbles, no miscommunication, no missing open receivers...none of that shit.
     
  10. benhamean

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    Because they just put up 17 points against a supershitty Indy D in a dome?
     
  11. DavidVeloz418

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    No, I don't think McKnight is ready to play in a game of this magnitude. Next year McKnight should be ready to play.
     
  12. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The Pats weapons do not compare to ours, where they blow us away(and every other team in the league) is at QB. We have better RBs, better WRs, Keller is as good as any of their TEs, the key is Brady. We have to find a way to harrass and/or confuse him. It's not likely to happen but that is our only hope.
     
  13. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    you're being delusional because you didn't state that you simply believed that the Jets offense was as capable as performing as well as the Pats because we have as many weapons, you questioned why nobody else believed that and why they should despite the fact that the Jets haven't done so this entire season.
     
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    They did this against the Jets but they generally do get more conservative at the end of games
     
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    It's unbelievable, isn't it? On paper, we've got slightly better talent across the board in almost all areas (with the exception of a Wes Welker-type receiver). You neglect to mention that our O-line is better too.

    It's hard to imagine that one man (Brady) can make that big of a difference (unless you factor in Belichick as well) and that just those two personnel make such a huge difference. But they do.

    As you point out, the biggest talent and experience gap is QB, and that is the key position to every offense. Hopefully, within 3-4 years, that gap diminishes or disappears all together after Brady retires. For now though, it's really all about El Guappo and his progression.

    This game is certainly winnable... as winnable as the lowly Seahawks over the SB Champion Saints. Eleven point spread and they beat it by eleven. Go figure.

    But it's all on El Guappo.
     
  16. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

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    The Jets have scored as many points as the Patriots averaged all season long only 4 times this year. You make it sound like 17 against Indy is some great feat. New England Put up 20+ in the first half of several games against some of the best defenses. That Jets have been held without a touchdown more than once. That is why people aren't comparing the offenses.

    The number of yards you can gain doesn't mean anything if you can't score touchdowns and settle for fieldgoals.
     
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    Play calling first? That has to be the silliest thing I ever read here. If Sanchez was accurate against the Colts, the Jets win 34-16.

    It's always about execution.
     
  18. CJLang

    CJLang Well-Known Member

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    Sure the Jets have soem good weapons, but....

    Maybe people don't talk about it because the Jets have rarely shown the ability to put up alot of points, and the Pats have scored over 30 for 6 or 7 weeks in a row.
     
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    The good thing is that this team hopefully realized in the second half of the WC game that running the ball is the key here. Keep the hair on the sideline, throw here and there but run the ball and take time off the clock.
     
  20. Professor Frink

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    I'm not sure where you get the idea that your RBs are better, Woodhead and Green-Ellis have pretty much the same amount of yards on fewer touches and get in the endzone more.

    I'll concede the WR position, but you are over simplifying the TE situation. Yes, Keller is the best TE on either team, however it's not like he is the only one. While you guys line up with stiffs like Ben Hartstock, the Patriots have actual depth at the position, with three guys who all play big roles within the offense. They certainly have more talent from top to bottom.
     

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