Well the rebuild and the fall off of Revis and Cro are keeping us from every having seen the defense he wants to implement. He has always coached teams that led the leagues in blitz% or were right at the top. He blitzed around 65% of the time in AZ. He hasnt had the corners who could play man and allow that kind of D before. Not making excuse but I want to see him fail with 2 cover corners and even with limited blitzing talent before I condemn his defenses. Offense and the OCs have been a problem. But with a limited run game he still managed to have to long time journeyman QBs have pretty good years. I do agree with Bowles criticism of Morton, his play calling had no feel for changing game conditions. The offense started strong in most games and faded as the game moved on. Interestingly the strong starts hopefully are a good sign because it has been reported that it was Bates who was in charge of scripting the opening quarter or so of plays. But being inside the 5, game on the line against Car and 4 straight passes, not a single run was indicative of his play calling. His demeanor in public, his pressers mean absolutely nothing to me. We are chameleon like with all of this. We want Rex like emotion, love it. Then hate it and call him a boob. Get Belichick like demeanor and its fine and perfect fot the team at 10-6, hate it at 5-11. He led a team to 5 wins with a roster people concluded would be hard pressed to win a game or maybe two. He wins five but we say he did a bad job. I in no way am happy with him but totally think hes deserved to be where he is but needs to take the team up a notch this season. I think the roster is stronger and think with a fair schedule its going to turn out that way. Hes not getting fired unless the team turns against him. But really, we all know the team respects him, doubt its happening. And if he gets past this season? Another draft and $100 mil to spend? Not seeing the doom and gloom outlook the next couple of years and that says hes staying on to me.
That’s not a statistic. Are you arguing we’d see no significant difference in performance if teams had no coaches, did not run organized practices to hone their skills and plays, and just ran out on the field with the players calling their own routes like we did as kids? Because the skill of the players would result in the relatively same outcome?
I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. What have I said that is unrealistic? To expect the defense to not under preform in its 4th season under Bowles? What is not true about having talented first rd picks at every layer of the defense? Take a look at the schedule... take a look at the AFC in general and tell me why the Jets shouldn't be competing for a wildcard this season. Do you really believe that teams like the Chiefs, Bengals, Ravens, Texans are far superior to the Jets?
Game plans are influenced by the roster. How could anyone expect a dynamic, open offense with the OL, RBs and QBs we've had? Really think another coach would have lit it up with this offensive group? On defense lets see what they do this year, he finally has the talent where he needs it in the secondary to run the blitz heavy D hes always been known for Best is the constant reference to penalties. We had a lot last year, admit that. We also had a ridiculously young group, a lot of new players. Not an excuse, just the way it was. His first two years we were top five in least penalized teams. Completely blowing out the theory that his teams are undisciplined.
What did you say? That 8-8 or 9-7 is low expectations. Go away, this is a pointless exercise. I said they need to play better D. You dont know what you post or what i posted. Then you gt pissy about alll of it. Theyve drafted a LB, DL and a S at the top of the draft. Thats not all levels of the D. its three players. 3.
@ LF911SC I know that this doesn't mean squat but there are professionals out there that think the Jets have playoff potential. https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/04/nfl-predictions-2018-playoff-picks-super-bowl-champion-awards
You absolutely sacrifice today for Sam if that’s what it takes. I could not careless about this year, I am thinking about the next 15
You're nuts buddy... I said you were already building in excuses for a failed season not that 8-8 or 9-7 were low expectations. And LOL... D line, LB and Secondary are the thee layers of a defense. Stop typing so angry BTW. Your posts are becoming more and more difficult to understand.
Meh... I disagree, but I think you knew that already. I'm not interested in sacrificing this season. I think they can win.
Why do you think we can win now? Which position groups or players scream playoff spot. I know the afc is weak but frankly I don’t look at the roster and see it. What do you see?
Totally agree with the bold regarding game plan. I had no issues with the offense either. I never expected a dynamic, open offense. I do have an issue with his game planning on defense. We know what he prefers a blitz heavy D. He did not have the horses to do so, yet IMO the game planning on D remained basically true to what he likes. To your point, I can wait to see his defense this year. If it more of the same with 2 fairly solid CB and a nickel back, then I' throwing in the towel on Bowles. Hope you can prove me wrong. I want to see better results in the defense this year.
I did not think this way before the preseason but Darnold changes things. I see a complimentary WR group with depth.. the speedster, the savvy vet and the reliable hands seam receiver. If Darnold is the accurate ball distributer he appears to be this group is going to surprise people in a hurry. I see a running attack just good enough to keep teams honest. I see a defense more than capable of stopping the run. I worry that our lack of a pass rush and spotty special teams will ruin all of the above.
I agree with most but I just can’t put winning aspirations on a rookie qb . Sams going to lose games. It’s just what it is. Especially later in the year as teams get tape on him.
This is definitely a good point and it happens to promising rookies all the time mid-season.. here's hoping we truly have that special talent where the tape won't matter.
Sam is going to make mistakes. We all know that. He also will do a lot of things right as a QB, things we have been lacking for a long, long time. As to the wins and losses, there is a lot more at stake than Sam. Sam is not going to be the cause of most of our losses. The rest of the team needs to step the fuck up too. From the coaching staff to each player on the team. Every time you drop a pass, fumble a ball, miss a tackle, miss a block, miss an assignment, commit a stupid penalty, you name it. All are contributors to a loss. They will be a few interceptions and a few fumbles from Sam along the way. That is part of being a rookie. But he will hold his own on the field, and he will be smart about his choices. He will learn from his mistakes and he will not make them again and again. Lets just hope the rest of the team does the same.
That’s the best case,09-10 jets, 2016 cowboys type teams that pick up their rookie QBs . I think we are closer, though maybe not as bad as the rookie aikman cowboys,rookie manning colts.
I don't want to put words in FF's mouth but I don't think he's saying they should lose - they should try to win every game, but the W?L is a distant second in priority to making sure Sam develops into the FQB we need. For example, let's say that the Jets are getting their ass kicked and Sam is under constant pressure because the other team knows he has to pass. Instead of leaving him in the game to try 40+ passes, they might pull him and let McCown do mop up rather than risk an injury to Sam or let him get shellshocked. If that's not what you meant FJF, sorry, but that's what my thoughts are.
And that's what we're all hoping, but losing a few games this year won't matter - other than maybe affecting our draft position.
