Fire Rex TONIGHT

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  1. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    I'm done too. It's one thing not having the talent -- that can conceivably be GM's fault. It's another to not be able to get your personnel to play hard. That's on the coach and it happened for the 3rd time this season.

    Getting players to play hard was the only thing Rex had going for him. No more, RR needs to go.
     
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  2. BleedGreen89

    BleedGreen89 Well-Known Member

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    Is that a Yes or a No Rex?
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    He has just as much talent as those guys did coming out. So yes, it's a lofty comparison/stretch now, but maybe in 10/15 years it wouldn't be.

    He's a piece of crap individual but he's a piece of crap that has all the tools. He's very talented. I'd rather the Jets bet big on talent than betting big on anything else.. maybe they can draft another DL'men though.. we'll see
     
  4. alleycat9

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    this right here is something i did not realize at the time. mike pettine has been very successful now everywhere he has been since getting out from under rex.

    and it really does seem like he HATED being under rex. its widely assumed that mike pettine was the anonymous source his entire last year feeding manish story after story. he moved on and we all thought we had gotten rid of a cancer. but since he left the defense has gone down and then way down. is it a coincidence? sure it could be, pettine had revis and cromartie at cb.

    but the fact he went to buffalo and while the defense up there wasnt a top 5 defense it did get quite a bit better. and now he is seeing success at 7-4 as the head coach in cleveland of all places. taking a situation that could turn into a qb controversy and keeping it settled all year while winning games nobody thought they could.

    its an interesting coincidence, or is it.
     
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  5. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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  6. Big Blocker

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    I know this is not the consensus opinion here by a long shot, but someone said something about there not being a candidate on the squad to replace Ryan at this point. So that squarely brings up the subject of Marty Morninwheg.

    Part of my difficulty, probably the main part, of assessing relative responsibility in the Jet organization is it is not clear who has authority in this or that area. How much input does Ryan have on the roster? Who was making the ultimate decision to stick with Smith as long as they did? How much were the others on board with that one?

    Up til last night I was prepared to place most of the blame on Idzik, and I still do. But what was crystal clear last night, as it has been somewhat less so, but clear enough before, is that Ryan for some reason this year has not been getting near enough out of his players. Yes, Idzik sucks at his job, too, but he's not missed on EVERY move he's made. Ryan bears ultimate responsibility for how well his players are prepared and play on the field, once the game starts. That is the ultimate measuer of the HC, and last night made it crystal clear Ryan failed, and failed in fact once again.

    So how much of that blame falls on the rest of his CS? Well, let's find out. Ryan is already a goner, and it remains less than clear to me what role Marty has had in the fiasco. Ftr I don't buy the complaints about not running the ball enough. Total numbers of rushing attempts game long ignores that the Jets were behind all game, and while it was not that much in the first half, by the second half it was too far down to run it.

    So fire Rex, and see what Marty can do if he's out from under Ryan. What's the downside? I see none. Meanwhile the players get to see their fairy tales about Ryan being a great player's coach and how much they love to play for him don't cut it at all anymore.

    To be clear I am not expecting any miracles, but it's still hard to separate Marty's responsibilities here from Ryan's. Cut ties with Ryan now. Ther's no upside to keeping him, and at the very least we get to see whether Marty can make any difference at all.
     
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  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    How many times do we have to sit here and talk about Mark? I would be pissed off too if I were Rex.
     
  8. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I agree the Jets need to upgrade the Oline, but my issue is the lack of adjustments by MM.

    You go against the best pass rush in the NFL and your throwing out 5 WR formation.

    Instead of sticking with the run that was working against their front 4 he just abandons it and goes back to 4 and 5 receiver sets.

    That's not on Idzik, that is fundamental coaching at its worst.
     
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  9. APK 8

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    Indeed - having a rookie TE in Jace Amaro blocking a Pro Bowl pass rusher in Mario Williams is simply poor offensive strategy. It should never happen, yet MM called the play and the predicatble sack resulted.

    Rex has done a poor job coaching the coaches and holding them accoutable for some of the results on the field.
     
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  10. Big Blocker

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    Again, at some point when the scoreboard gets too unbalanced, you have to give up the running game.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I've never dismissed his physical or football ability. His being a piece of crap individual is what is in question.

    Aside from Big Ben and maybe Favre, how many top tier NFL QBs in the past 30 years have been successful while being a piece of crap individual? Character counts for something in professional football.

    You're counting on the guy "maturing". He's not just dealing with a bad piss test, he's garnered a rap sheet at FSU. The guy is shaping up to be a bigger head case than Vince Young.
     
  12. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    He's one of those players who is either gonna be a perennial pro-bowler or a total bust who is out of the league in 3 years. He's the quintessential hit or miss.

    edit: I love his talent, though. I think he can really play. I just wish he wasn't such a knuckle-head.
     
  13. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I do understand that at some point, you have to give up the run, it's expected when you are down by so much.

    However the jets were only down by 11 comin out of the half, they could have started to run the ball again but they did not, and that's what bugs me.
     
  14. Wahoo

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    To show that SOMEONE in this organization is paying attention. To send the message to the fans and players that this is unacceptable. Pick the meanest ornerinest c**ksucker on the coaching staff and put him in charge for the last 5 weeks. To show some semblance of life
     
  15. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Uh, you realize the Bills got the ball to start the second half, don't you? They got a FG on it. By the Jets' first possession in the second half they were already down 14 points with about 25 minutes to play.
     
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  16. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Big, as a finished my post I realized the error of my way. I decided to just take the reply like a man and not edit my post.
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    Good for you. We need more real men around here.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Lmfao more real men. Men that type 16 paragraphs about Mae West. What a fucking anklebiter.
     
  19. BrowningNagle

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    The more I think about it makes sense to do it sooner. Why? So that we can see how useful or useless the other coaches are so the new coach can determine who he wants to keep around ( if any)
     

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