The results are no better, but that team didn't have a potential FQB and some of the good young players that this team has. That team had NO future. This team potentially has one.
At this point Mac can stay or go, I don't care. My point is that with this massively incompetent CS, particularly in the defensive side of the ball which is a freaking joke, its hard to really pinpoint how much talent we do have. They wouldn't know what to do with it. Richardson looked great out there in Minni, a real force, yet moron 1 and moron 2 didn't know what to do with him except as an occasional OLB, LOL. TB is going down in history as the worst Jet HC ever, ditto to the DC. Mac is no way in that league.
I agree that Mac is not on Bowles' level of incompetence/cluelessness. There are aspects of his job that he does well (contracts, cap, trades), but his primary job is remaking the roster, and while there are a lot of new faces, the talent level isn't significantly better. I'm certain that a number of the players that are here would play better with a better HC and CS who had any inkling of how to develop players and put them into a position in which they can succeed. That said, players that Mac drafted that didn't make it here, haven't latched on anywhere else. His drafting has been bizarre, drafting 4 DBs and 3 WRs last season, drafting two safeties back-to-back last season, he has failed to significantly improve the OL, his focus has not been balanced between offense and defense, and there have been too many misses in rounds 2-4. IMO he has not adequately studied draft classes and then drafted in an appropriate manner or prioritized better. If he had, he would have had a much better LT by now and would never have drafted Hack. He has been too focused on BPA and not enough on need. His FA additions to address need have been mediocre. I'm not even holding his first FA class against him, as I think that was largely due to pressure from Woody to win immediately rather than beginning the rebuild then. He had the opportunity to overhaul the OL this past FA season and by and large, punted (didn't half try and settled for 2nd and 3rd tier players). The bottom line is that I don't trust him to improve the OL significantly or to surround Sam with talent on offense. I don't trust him to hire the right HC, and I don't trust him to spend the $100 million wisely in FA. He's mediocre or average. That won't cut it imo. That won't get us to the promised land. I think he definitely HAS to go and be replaced with Eliot Wolf or some other qualified individual if we are to have any chance to succeed.
does anyone trust Macc spending 100 mill (or whatever) on free agents? Team has no direction or identity
NE roll up 498 total yards, including 215 on the ground. The D got gashed on - 10 plays of at least 20 yards. They didn’t have a takeaway for a franchise-record fifth consecutive game. This was the fifth time this season the Jets have allowed 400 or more yards on defense. So we have a D minded coach that can not coach his players up.... we have people stating they aren't executing after the 5th straight loss yet this stooge of a HC states his reasoning for not taking the penalty as - “Third-and-12 were good odds for us,’’ Bowles said. “We’ve been pretty good on third-and-12.’’ Except they aren’t. The Jets entered the game ranked 28th in the NFL on defending plays of third-and-12 and longer. It shows what a clueless fool he is and to allow his OC to call 50 passes when NE Run D is giving up 150 yards per game is beyond belief.
While I don't disagree with your feedback, and I'm not opposed to see Mac go, this is where my mortal fear and thinking diverges from yours. a- The thing I trust the least of all is for J&J to select a better replacement for Mac. We might take a huge step backwards. The combined wisdom of the various executive search firms they used for input (Wolf and Co and prior ) gave us Idzyk, Mac and TB. Pretty dismal, of the three, the only one that was partially successful was Mac. b- I will also add that IMO, as sad as it is Rex did more with the talent given than TB has in four years. TB has zero credibility as a HC in my eyes. c- So while replacing TB should be an easier upgrade that even the J&J team and Mac should be able to do, replacing Mac requires selecting a real VP of football operations first, a task that mandates an in depth knowledge of the breath and depth of qualifications needed. If they can manage that, then let the VP select the HC and I'm a happy camper. But who are they going to hire this time as advisory to get it right, and do they have enough respect in this league to capture such a person? d- Let us hope that your last bullet comes thru and the light bulb turns on with someone like Eliot Wolf.
Maccagnan has little to show for his drafts and Bowles has even less to show for his coaching. At this point, we may not win another game all season, and I prefer it that way so it can drive home the point to ownership that we need wholesale change. We turned a season of hope and progress into a season of lifelessness and garbage. With a top 5 pick, 100 mil in cap, and a 21 year old QB, Jets ownership has to open up the checkbook and try to get someone with the pedigree to run the show/coach.
I am almost 100% sure Mac is staying, but like @FJF said: I am not going to be upset if he goes either. Bowles has to be gone.
If they fire Bowles, which they HAVE TO, Mac is either going to get canned or be allowed to pick the next coach. If that happens, he basically has to be extended again for a few years. IMO he has done nothing to deserve that. I say they both have to go.
Biggest fear is Jets decide to keep Maccagnan with an extension and some of the better coaching prospects view it as undesirable because they have seen his drafting and think its bad. Macc & Bowles came in together and have put enough on paper to show that neither of them are good at their respective jobs. Time to press the reset button and get legitimate people to run this thing.
They are publicly visible, you have to click on the number of votes for each choice to view who the votes were.
Thanks Enunwa. I was pretty sure it could only Bowels and Maccagnan themselves. At this point voting to keep both of them has to be some kind of sick joke.
They both need to go as far as I'm concerned. Bowles is a lousy coach who has gotten worse in every facet since 2015 while Macc has had to many misses after round 1. I've given Macc the benefit of the doubt for a while, but he hasn't done enough to earn staying power IMO. Plus, if Bowles is canned, how many quality HC candidates will turn down coming to the Jets with a GM who is on the hot seat? That would increase the risk of a Rex/Idzik 2.0 happening.
Mac needs a good HC who knows exactly what they want to have a decent draft outside of the first round ... I would rather fire Mac, and hire a new GM and let the GM hire the HC.
I agree with you if they aren't going to hire a Pres. of Football Ops, which I think they should absolutely do. If they do that, then that guy should hire the GM and HC.
I haven't made up my mind on Mac yet (leaning more towards firing then I was several weeks ago, but not there yet), so only went with Bowles at this point. The case is closed on Bowles. Has to go. Should have happened at the end of last season and there's really no excuse for it not having happened after Buffalo.
