Fire Lafleur

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    unless we end up with the no.1 pick which is looking more and more possible. Then you draft that pass rusher from Oregon
     
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    Maybe. Easy decisions are quick to make. It's the tough ones or close ones we agonize over, right? Not 100% disagreeing here just saying that the stats aren't quite as black and white as they may seem.
     
  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Look at the Cleveland Browns who 3 seasons ago shared the NFL cellar with us

    Andre Berry has put and offensive and defensive line together one two three. Plus he canned the HC Freddy Kitchens for something better in Stefansky. Turned out to be a good move obviously

    I am officially off the JD bandwagon...no bells went off in his head that 3 rookie Coaches was a bad idea and he is paid to figure this out. He should be smarter than TGG on any day smh

    He has until 2024 to start hiring better Vets as Coaches and players! Enough with rookie madness. The scales need to be balanced asap with someone who has EXPERIENCE

    I liked the new hires at first ...but on second thought Bart Scott is right dump Lafleur for someone with years at being OC. Saleh better not say a word or he s next tbh

    Big mistake...... but the GM should have the scones to correct it fast
     
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    Can we believe anything Salah says? Lol




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    I was watching Rex, commenting on how bad the jets have been. How they lacked any fire/passion, and that he was really surprised because it’s supposed to be salah’s mantra, and the teams energy had been mostly non existent. I think it is a good observation. Funny he said if he was not chosen to coach jets, he wanted Salah, since he had energy similar to himself.


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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    How’d it work out last time we told a potential coach that yeah we will hire you but we get to pick your staff?

    Rhule laughed in our face.
     
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    Rhule was in a position to do that, Saleh was in a position to listen and think. Even now, we don't know the specifics of who Rhule wanted may have been a problem for management.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Please elaborate why Rhule was in the position to do that where Saleh wasn't?

    IIRC, Saleh had interest from Det + Philly. The night he walked out after that long meeting with us he was about to board a flight to Philly. There were meltdowns everywhere that we lost our guy that the majority of the fan base wanted!
     
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    I'm only on page 5 of this thread so I have more reading to do....

    Seems we have a VERY complex offense, where every WR running every route can change 'post snap' depending on what a safety does, depending on if a LB 'drops his hip', etc. "Run this way in this case, run that way in that case". Puts a TON of demands on the WRs changing their routes mid stream and TONS of pressure on the QB so see exactly what the WRs sees, so Zach knows how his WR is changing his route and where to throw to.....I think Zack's int to the side line where Moore ran out and Zack threw in is an example.

    The situation where all 3 WRs ran to the same spot is another example....their original routes were probably different, but one or two changed based their route based on a LBer dropping down or some shit, but the 3rd WR stayed the course, and they all ended up next to each other. Who tf knows?

    I do know when a team changes course mid season, the new coordinator ALWAYS says he 'simplified the offense', which at first leads to a lot of success.

    LaFleur reminds me a lot of Shotty with his play calling. Not the non-stop shifts, but the complexity of every play. SO many layers of nuance to adjust after the snap.

    Players hate that complex shit. Players just want to be REALLY GOOD at running their plays, and imposing their will on the defense even when the D knows what's coming.

    CEO Saleh needs to find the Offensive Meeting Rooms, drop in, and start crossing shit off the white board.
     
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    Sure - Rhule had a longer and deeper resume, had worked both offense and defense and had been a head coach at both Temple and Baylor. Saleh has never led a team before now at any level and all his experience has been on defense.

    My thoughts are that choosing a coaching staff should be a joint venture between the head coach and management but more with the coach selecting who he wants as his assistants and team management having veto power. I think the Jets are now paying the price for permitting a situation where a rookie head coach with no offense experience has brought in a guy with a short and narrow resume as his Offensive Coordinator. This would have been the place for a guy with some kind of record as an OC beyond two or three years at small colleges and more time in overall.
     
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    that’s likely what happened last week to dummy down the offense. I mean it’s complex but poetry in motion when things are going well. Firing LaFleur is just a silly motion, idc how early it is. And many wanted this type of offense. It’s going to take time to gel.
     
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    I'll wager its the guys he got working for him now...
     
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    Probably largely who he would have brought to the Jets but we'll never know the specifics. Water under the bridge now.
     
  14. REVISion

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    I think this positivity routine is fine with the media but I would hope he's having some more stern conversations with players and coaches behind the scenes.
     
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    Scoring only 20 cumulative points in three games is certainly not "a good job"... :confused:
     
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    if Saleh is going to Homer all season for his best friends brother I am out the door rooting for this mess. I already spend half my time on the Raiders Board where posters still bitch at Chucky Gruden (and they are 3-0) lol. OTOH .the Jets are like a Boarding House where coaches and players stay a while and get some NFL experience and move on

    Obviously missed the boat not getting McCarthy or Matt Rhule for that matter

    We should call this franchise "a swing and a whiff"
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    SMH Doing a good job my ass!! If Saleh truly believes that and isn't just covering for his friend, then he may not be the right man for this job or competent to be a HC. Obviously, his loyalty is to LaFleur and not Zach or the players here, and he's blinded by that loyalty.
     
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    I think Rex has learned from all his failure. He's made several comments recently that I thought were spot on.
     
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    I hope so. The message to the media is correct. But everyone and their mother knows what Mike is doing pretty fucking far from "good job".
     
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    Depending how you look at it, the 2 TDs really were after we were out the game….


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