Finally!!! Someone said it!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by mezzavo, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I don't think it got in the player's heads, I think it got in Mangini's head. I still absolutely do not understand how things deteriorated so totally at the end of the season that the only win we got was a Jauron "special".

    That had to be a leadership vacuum at the top. If Favre and Jenkins DIED the Jets shouldn't have turned into an 0-5 + 1 gift team.
     
  2. PennyRoyal10

    PennyRoyal10 Well-Known Member

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    While I agree with this comment, especially after the Tennessee beat down, but I believe this coaching staff will not let the team get any sort of complacent. Maybe I'm naive as hell, but with Sutton as D coordinator and Mangini micromanaging everything I never felt comfortable trusting them. This just feels different...
     
  3. capetide

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    I didn't realize that a win in week 1 against the Texans qualified the Jets for the Superbowl! This is AWESOME!
     
  4. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I think you are all missing the point. This is not about some writer saying we're winning the Superbowl...not even going 11-5 or something. This is a write, for a change, pointing out that we have a better than originally thought team. Hell, 90% of the media had us winning 5 games at best. I LOVE it when these ass clowns have to swallow their collective word processors. More than half of these idiots shouldn't be covering sports anyway...oh well...just thought it was nice to see a piece not spewing the Jets won in spite of themselves...and have an ok team.

    Peace!

    The Mezz
     
  5. MurrellMartin

    MurrellMartin Well-Known Member

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    Been saying it all offseason.

    This is the same fucking team that was 8-3 at one point with Super Bowl asipirations and were looking like, AT THE WORST, the AFC East Champs and someone for the Steelers and Titans to compete with for the crown, especially after they walked into Nashville and BLEW OUT the 10-0 Titans. After that, our QB and NT went down, two of the most important positions on a Football team, especially one that runs a 34 Defense.

    This is the SAME team except instead of Brett Favre, who threw 22 TD and 22 INT, we have a young kid back there ready to manage the game. You're telling me he cannot compile those stats, if not better stats, in a ball control type offense? Give me a break. Our defense also now resembles more of a 34 front and our Defense IMPROVED GREATLY with the additions of Jim Leonhard and Bart Scott. Greatly.

    I was so sick and tired of all the bullshit 6-10 and 7-9 predictions. I said 10-6 or 11-5, if we play like we did in Houston Sunday, we'll win more than that.
     
  6. nyjetsrule

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    Wrong, Take out the QB position swap from last year to this, and I think this team is better top to bottom from a year ago when we were 8-3. The only major loss we had other than Favre is Coles. We have added, a quality #2 cb in Sheppard, we added a solid safety who plays with his heart on his sleeve in Leonard, and oh yeah we added a monster in the middle in Bart Scott.

    So really in essence we lost Coles, but gained 3 defensive starters. We lost a 38 year old QB with serious issues about wanting to have played for us, and Gained a 22 year old QB who has the chance to have as good a season for us as the 38 year old QB did. If our only two losses are a great #2/ below average #1 WR, and experience at the QB position, when you add in our additions to the defensive side of the ball, and add a year of EXP for our young studs in the making (Harris/Revis/Gholston/Keller) and a year of gelling for what was already one of the best OL's in football last year, and I really think we are a much better team this year than last from top to bottom. Their will be times where we struggle offensively due to Mark's growing pains, and the WR's young inexperienced play. But based on Sunday, I don't think Sanchez has too many struggles with Rookie woes, but the receivers will take time to develop and gel with each other...
     
  7. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    in all fairness to mangina:

    if we are 8-3 this season and jenkins wear out, sheppard sucks at bad as lowery forcing tanny to bring in 90 yr old DB, AND sanchez tears a bicept muscle, what do you think we finish at?

    had to have been a nightmare in the dark room. no wonder mangina and tanny kept favre playing. we only had favre for a year anyway, may as well destroy him.

    sounds good to me.

    ps: the vikings have the jets sloppy seconds. and how tight can sloppy second even be with a torn tendon in there??????
     
  8. Attackett

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    The coaching is what did us in last year, as Jets fans we have seen some really bad HCs over the years. The Seattle game last year was the worst coached game I have ever seen, that says a lot considering our history. Don't even get me started with the 3 man rush, which to this day still gives me nightmares.

    The problem wasn't Favre's injury, it was the fact that we relied on him with that injury instead of relying on a run game that featured one of the best OLs in the league and a RB that led the league in rushing, niot to mention one of the most explosive players in the game that the CS couldn't figure out how to use. I think this CS is a clear upgrade.

    I also think the QB is an upgrade, yeah I know that sounds crazy with a rookie QB replacing a hall of fame QB. If you think about it though, Favre was not a hall of fame QB last year, he was barely a legit starting QB. He only played 5 games tops that would be considered good to great games, the rest were average or worse. Sanchez is going to have his ups and downs obviously, he already has one great game played under his belt and will only get better as the season progresses.

    If the Jets can maintain the type of attitude they played with last week, the best teams in the league will have a hard time beating them. That is going to be interesting to watch over the next few weeks, whether they can maintain it throughout the season. I predicted 11-5 on the high end, looking at the schedule I see that now as a real possibility.
     
  9. HardHitta

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    No shit we all believe all that, Now we got someone on the outside. This could all come together, But we have to stomp those patsie cocksuckers sunday.
     
  10. HardHitta

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    Fuck them. We believe.

    All we need iz us...
     
  11. paulpark_bayside

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    Don Banks of Sports Illustrated has put the Jets 13th in the power rankings ahead of teams such as the Cowboys, Bears, and Dolphins. Here's what he says:

    "New York Jets (1-0)
    After the Jets big win at Houston, we heard a lot about how nobody was listening when rookie head coach Rex Ryan was telling everyone he had a pretty good team this preseason. I beg to differ. I picked the Jets to go 10-6 and earn a wild-card berth this season, and hearing about Ryan's inspirational Saturday night speech to his team only reinforces my belief that New York will feed all season off his competitive juices."
     
  12. ScotsJet

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    What? That would be nothing like the Jets I know.
     
  13. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If the Jets defeat New England convincingly on Sunday, the Jets will no longer be flying under the radar.

    However, I'm sure there are those who will continue their spin train as it is.
     
  14. Carpetbagger

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    This team has six returning pro bowlers, it's not like the team has a lack of talent. I didn't particularly understand why everyone was writing us off in the first place. Sure, we have a rookie qb, but the team around him is very solid.
     
  15. Jtuds

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    It is nice to see this sort of thing written at any time, but we still need to wait and see. After the Saints game, we'll have played 3 of the hardest games on our schedule in my opinion, and though there will be more coming after that, we should know by then whether this atricle can stand.
     
  16. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    I do agree that this year's defense has more talent than last year's, but I think people who are using Sunday's game to predict that this year's offense will be as good as last year's are minimizing two important points. First of all, it's not at all obvious that Sanchez will at least duplicate Favre's admittedly mediocre numbers of last year. His performance on Sunday was very encouraging, but it's way too early to dismiss the possibility that he could have a year like those of other rookie QBs who still turned out to be good players (Troy Aikman being the most obvious example, but neither Manning was all that great as a rookie either). NFL defensive coordinators get paid for a reason, and they are going to come up with defenses that are tougher for Sanchez than Houston's was.

    The more important reason to still be cautious is that the Jets OL had no serious injuries for the entire season last year. It's asking a lot for that to happen again, and if injuries happen things could suddenly get a lot tougher for the offense.
     
  17. ukjetsfan

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    Flying under the radar is for losers.

    Light up their radar and let 'em see you coming, knowing there's nothing they can do about it.

    Throw in a little lamentation of their women afterwards and it's a good day's work.
     
  18. Jetsetter

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    As long as Sanchez keeps playing like he did last week, the media will have a love affair with him. If the Jets have a winning record by the second half of the season, we may actually see the Jets in prime time. I don't think there is an attraction to the Jets so much as ther e is an attraction to Mark Sanchez.
     
  19. Don

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    They only have to beat them by a point. Most "experts" picked them to win the SB before the season started.
     
  20. Gator

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    Nothing got in ther heads. They had a QB with a gimpy arm and Tannenbaum and Mangini made the decision to play him anyway. I guess their prior experience with Chad influenced them to do it. Chad had gotten hurt and still made enough plays to beat San Diego in 04, so they rolled the dice with Favre. They way Clemens looked this preseason, you can kind of understand.
     

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