My dream scenario: Trade #2 and #86 to the Eagles for #6, #37 and a 2022 #1 Trade #6 to #9-12 for a package including a 2022 #1 Pick your top CB, Edge, Receiver, or OL at pick #9-12 Build a solid team around Sam with the draft. Watson holds out in training camp and the Texans finally see the writing on the wall. Trade: Darnold, the two middle 2022 first rd picks and our 2023 #1 for Watson. Assets: Top 5 fqb 4 picks in the top 65 this year and next
I like both options. Keep Sam for a year see if he can 1) Improve under the new staff and become trade bait. 2) Let Wilson get acclimated. 3) Build up the pieces to make both better with OL, WR, IOL, TE
We still have no playmakers or talent at WR,TE for either QB. That would be a lousy move. I'm hoping Douglas and Saleh won't make that move. Still kneecapping the incoming QB
We could address WR or TE with picks 22, 34, or 37 and of course FA. 4 picks in the top 65 THIS year AND 4 picks in the top 65 NEXT year is kneecapping? Lol. Ok
We drafted Mims in round two last year and Crowder was arguably our best player last year. If the right player falls in our laps we take him but having patience is how we get the best value.
We had one starter in this last draft and unless you got a crystal ball there is no telling where those picks will (1) be or contribute. What was the name of that GM we had that made 12 draft picks? How many of them made an impact? Better yet how many played for the Jets for 3 years?
Sam cannot become trade bait. He will be a FA after this season. The only way he could become trade bait is if the Jets pick up his 5th year option, which would cost the Jets $25 million next year, or try to sign him to an extension. There's no reason that he and his agent should agree to sign an extension. They could just tell the Jets to pick up the 5th year option or Sam would test FA. If the Jets want to get something back for Sam (which they should), then they have to trade him NOW. JD will build up the pieces regardless. Let's say the Jets do what you suggest. They keep Sam and draft Wilson #2. Then Wilson shows he's ready to start day one and handily beats out Sam. Sam then sits and never plays a down for the Jets barring an injury to Wilson, and then the Jets lose him at the end of the year and at best, get only an end of the 3rd round compensatory pick. Sitting and not playing for a year, could cause his value to drop even further, and the Jets may wind up only getting a 4th round pick or lower for him, when they potentially could get a 2nd round pick or earlier 3rd round pick now, and maybe even a couple of picks. Sam isn't the ideal QB to mentor anyone, either.
If they could get a 2nd for him they would have moved him already. His value is on draft day when these teams see where these 4 QB's go. There are always surprises on draft day.
Who was the 1 starter from this past draft: Becton, Mimms, or Mann? That’s both last year’ picks form the top 65 btw. So far we’re batting 1000 with picks in the top 65 under Joe. In one breath you say I left the new qb kneecapped but in the next you devalue draft capital? Which one is it, is all the draft capital a good thing or not? Jfc I can’t
What if I told you it would cost least that $18.7 for the 5th year? If you got that basic info wrong, I wonder what else you could be wrong about...
No, all the draft capital is not good. Mims missed more games than he played. A punter really? He was bottom 3rd in flipping the field. Becton was our best draft pick in the last 5 years. Feel free to reevaluate. This draft is not that stellar. So expecting Douglas to hit a homerun with extra picks is asking too much. The Jets history says that's not a good thing.
I stopped reading once I realized that you were giving up the #2 overall pick for basically one 1st rounder this year. Not nearly enough in return.
A first rounder this year and a first rounder next year.... plus an early second rounder this year.... to move back 4 spots. Would you have preferred 2 first rounders this year since 1 isn’t enough?
Yes 2 firsts this year, and a 2nd or a high 3rd, and a high 2nd next year, at least. Let the Eagles (or whoever) find a team to trade with to get themselves another 1st this year.
You got that wrong. It's common knowledge and has been for months, that if the Jets pick up the 5th year option on Sam, it's $25 million. Get out of here with your nonsense.
And then the actual salary cap came out and it was lower than expected... so the 5th year option was cheaper.
You continually insist on telling people how wrong they were on pretty much everything when your knowledge is based solely on other peoples opinions that you have read. Did you ever contemplate that some of those you have parroted were wrong? The fifth year base salary is calculated from the average of the 3rd to 25th highest salaries at their position over the past five seasons. Salaries that will probably adjust down due to a lower salary cap and shorter term deals due to Covid uncertainty. I believe the calculation method has also changed with the new CBA. The below projections may not be prefect but I'll take it over your proclamations. https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections/
On salary cap and player costs, all we can go on is what has been printed/announced. That $25 million figure was was widely printed disseminated. Until that poster posted something different I had seen nothing here, on twitter or elsewhere to indicate that the figure had changed. If he had simply said that the figure had changed due to the cap projection changes, I would have said thanks for the update/correction. Instead, he said that I was wrong, and took a dig at me, and said nothing at first about there being an update/change. That wasn't until later. When he is wrong with about every single post he makes, how was I to believe him when he simply corrected me with no supporting information?
