Fields, Wilson, Jones, Trask, Lance (Volume 2)

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What do you pick?

  1. Fields

    15.8%
  2. Wilson

    50.0%
  3. Darnold

    17.5%
  4. Other - Explain

    7.0%
  5. Watson - Up to 3 1st's.

    9.6%
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  1. FinnishJET

    FinnishJET 2023 TGG Double FF Champion

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    Maybe we could start talking about who to pick with our 23rd pick. I vote for OL.
     
  2. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately I agree. Need someone to come in with a flaming hot take about the pick.
     
  3. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    CB if the right prospect is available.
     
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  4. FinnishJET

    FinnishJET 2023 TGG Double FF Champion

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    That wouldn't be a bad decision either.
     
  5. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    With the 23rd pick I expect the FO to target need with BPA which screams 1 of the top 4 CBs if they are available. Which leaves us with:
    Option 1: One of the 4 CB's Horn, Surtain, Farley and Newsome.
    Option 2: OG: Alijah Vera-Tucker
    Option 3: Anyone else the FO has fallen in love with such as Creed Humphrey but this seems a little early for Creed.
    Option 4: If none of the above are available trade back as from the little I have read the 2nd tier CBs and OGs do not have much value this early.
    Option 5: Trade up to get one of the CBs we want or Alijah. We have a lot of picks and there is a chance we could use some of the ammunition to getone of the players we really want like we should have done in the famous Idzik 12 draft.
     
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  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    you should make a new thread

    edit: I started one up
     
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  7. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    @NCJetsfan has mentioned Pitts having concussion issues a couple of times but I have not heard one expert mention it or anybody else in here, so what is the deal with this?
     
  8. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    There's no doubt that CB is a huge need, but imo taking a CB at #23 is making the same damn mistake that Mac made in taking a DL immediately after he took Sam. Wake up, guys! The D was already way ahead of the offense. Following FA, where most of the money and acquisitions went to the defense, the D is now light years ahead of the offense. The most important thing the Jets need to do is protect the QB. Nothing else is even remotely as important. How long do the Jets need to keep making the same mistakes? Regardless if Sam is still the QB, or if the Jets draft a rookie, he needs to be given a true chance to succeed. Drafting a CB at #23 does not do that.

    IMO short of drafting Sewell at #2 or trading down and not taking a QB at all, drafting a DE or CB at #23 are the worst possible moves the Jets could make. We all know that the Jets aren't going to be be a playoff team this year, so it really doesn't matter if our CB corps is not up to par. It WILL matter, however, if our QB continues to be on the run for his life on 40-50% of the snaps, and if our offense can't come together and start putting up points. It takes longer for an offense to get their timing down and their chemistry. It is MUCH more important to fix the OL this year and add the needed skill postition upgrades on offense than it is to fix the D. I'd rather #34 be used on offense too, but could accept a CB being taken at #34, if #23 is used on the OL and most of the rest of the picks are used on offense. As long as we come out of the draft with a CB, WLB and SS on D, that is fine imo. The other 6 picks (7 if we trade Sam) should be used on the OL, skill position players, and maybe a pick or two on STs. On offense, I think we need to add a QB, RG, RB, TE, WR, and if possible a RT. The RG and RT could be combined if we can get Teven Jenkins at #23. He could probably play either LG or RG for a year or two, and then slide over to RT.
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Actually, it's just one concussion. I may have gotten confused. I think someone posted that he had had a couple of concussions, but it may have been only one concussion and then I got him confused with Jaelen Phillips. I googled Pitts a few days ago, and it turns out that it was just one concussion. So it's less of a concern, but still somewhat of a concern. Sorry for posting false info and any confusion I caused.
     
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  10. GasedAndConfused

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    JD has been working on the O for 2 years now. he's going to draft a new QB, we got a huge upgrade in coaching and system for the rookie and we'll give him stability. not 2 systems in 3 years like darnold had. he'll get 1 system in a proven system his entire rookie contract. on top of that he signed 2 WRs and has mims from last year he drafted plus crowder. the o-line isn't that bad. Both OG spots could use an upgrade but we are set at C and OT for now. Meanwhile on the D side all we did was improve the d-line. the back 7 remain largely untouched and plus we don't have any Lbers really to fit salehs system. we need a QB of the defense. taking on 23rd overall makes a ton of sense there. we can take an OG 34rd overall (wyatt davis)
     
  11. NCJetsfan

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    He may not be there, but Teven Jenkins would be a great pick at #23. He's a better prospect than Vera Tucker. IMO there is no greater need than protecting the QB and giving him and the offense an opportunity to succeed. CB should wait. Taking a CB at #23 is making the same mistake Mac did when he draft Shepherd immediately after drafting Sam. We cannot keep making the same dumb mistakes. Even if it means trading down from #23 to get the right value, our second pick in the draft should be the best OL we can take imo.

    CBs can come in and play at a very high level their rookie season. They often don't struggle the same way that rookie OL do. We can wait for the CB.
     
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  12. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Did you see that hit though? It was nasty. Probably not a huge concern...but Pitts got aired out / leveled...
     
  13. All Gas No Shake

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    I’m hoping Jaylen Waddle falls to this pick
     
  14. CotcheryFan

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    FWIW, Revis didn't become a lockdown CB until year 3. Okudah, the top CB prospect in 2020, had his share of struggles. You might be underestimating the transition they face going from college to the NFL. Getting a top CB shouldn't stop us from going OL at 34.
     
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  15. baalworship

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    Yeah, I don't think there is a chance.

    I think Waddle is this year's WR 1 (although I expect Chase to go first).
     
  16. Kryoptix

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    Which offensive lineman should we draft at 23?
     
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  17. Kryoptix

    Kryoptix Well-Known Member

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    Why is everybody so high on Waddle? He is small, he is always injured and is production has been average... I know he is fast but his injuries will 100% affect his speed in the future. I simply don't get it...
     
  18. Brook!

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    FYI folks.

    I am dropping Darnold's name from the thread title. Just FYI :)
     
  19. NCJetsfan

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    While I would love Waddle or Toney, or Elijah Moore, that is a luxury. We have to ensure that the OL is fixed. Ideally, we could get Teven Jenkins at #23 and Creed Humphrey at #34, and then take a CB at #66 but I'd settle for Jenkins at #23 a CB at #34 and either Humphrey if he's still there (doubtful), a WR or RB at #66. We could even draft the OSU C Myers if he's a good fit at #66. I don't want Dan Feeney ever seeing the field for the Jets.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

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    Even if it does take a CB 3 years, OL should take priority. Again a CB does absolutely nothing for the QB. IMO CB is not that important that it should taken over OL and protecting the QB. Why do you think a CB should be taken first? Are you willing to risk ruining Wilson/Fields and having to start all over again in 3 years?
     
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