so how many points will the Conversion Safety be worth? it's only 1 pt in college. think it should be 2 though, just like a regular safety, or a regular successful 2pt conversion attempt.
It would be 2 points if the defense returns a 2 point try for a td, and I believe same for a hypothetical blocked extra point return td.
Fake! I said fake. You can't fake the kick and try to go fifteen yards for two points. The element of surprise is gone when you line it up on the two. The whole idea of having to opt for the placement of the ball is ridiculous. And what about the botched kicks that were able to be run in or passed by the holder or kicker? Now those would also have to be from the fifteen with a much smaller chance of success. And yeah, I've often gotten up to take a leak during the PAT but it was always there on the replay if something happened.
i mean an actual safety. ie, defense getting possession at say the 1, dipping back into endzone, and getting tackled. extremely unlikely i know. but it has to be accounted for in the rules. in college, it results in what's called a 'conversion safety', and the offense is awarded one point. i think it should be 2 pts tho.. i can only remember one time seeing it happen in a college game.
you are correct. those plays are all but gone as a result of this change. if you want to go for 2, you'll line up for that. no one will try a fake from a kicking formation now, as that means lining up at the 15. and if you botch a kick attempt, good luck on the fire drill gaining 15+ yds.. kicks will still result at a 95% or higher success rates, so moving the ball back accomplishes very little. i do like the defense having the ability to convert the points themselves tho, as it makes this a live play like every other football play.
Yes, he started out humble but he got "likes" from a bunch of teenagers so he felt emboldened and decided the angry snarky asshat dooshnozzle was the way to increase his TGG street cred. He's obviously a kid but with a decent knowledge of Jets history. Kind of a shame. I used to think he was Byz but Byz was much more astute, funny and intelligent in his cutting remarks. This troll, not so much. Flat, caustic and a dullard to be quite honest. Kind of a dick, as it were. But I do agree, he has emotional and anger issues that he tries to hide but which unfortunately detracts from his decent Jets posts. I hope he gets on some meds. We can't save them all. _
I know the thread's about the conversion after TD, I get it. I was broadly talking about how the league's tinkered quite a bit with the kicking game in general and was "working" the FGs, and the kickoffs, etc. into the "hey League: leave it alone already--you've done enough" argument. As for the kickoffs, I've already stated that they should make it more return-friendly - enough with the touchbacks.
soon enough they will do away with special teams. Goodell's NFL circa 2025~~~ (the "safe from lawsuits" league ... can't call it football anymore since the feet will be removed) -no kickoffs, just place the ball at the 20 -you can elect to "punt" on 4th down, which is just the officials placing the ball 40 yards down the field - the after TD conversion will consist of no kicking, but rather a very complicated scheme where depending on where you put the ball, you determine the amount of points you can receive from entering the end zone. 2 pts from the 2... 3 pts from the 10... 5 & 1/2 pts from the 15.. etc. pending instant replay review from officials of course. the defense can score off of it, provided they don't hit anyone too hard. This is the "safe from lawsuit" league of course! and the defensive score will have to go through intensive instant replay. -no FGs, if you are within the 40 yard line you will have to go for it but if you don't make it you can opt for an instant replay where referees can determine based on their own discretion if you gave it enough effort, they will give you the 1st down.
Charlie, I hear what you're saying but at the same time (and while this may sound as 'clear as mud'), imo there's a line between 'feature' and 'foundation' and I wouldn't like the post-TD conversion feature turned into the 'foundation' as to a game's result, that is, to the extent that it becomes all-too-often the difference between winning and losing. In an equally obtuse sense , take baseball: what about when e.g. a Giancarlo Stanton cracks a 475+ foot "no doubt about it" HR: should we waive the HR trot and give the batter the option to turn and head back to the dugout?
