Gents, Greg McElroni? Know your Jet history. There was a Jet QB who won both an NCAA championship (Alabama) and a Super Bowl championship. Joe Namath. 1964 National Champions - Univ. of Alabama (1st row, 2nd from left) Super Bowl III Champions - New York Jets (2nd row, last on the right) On-topic: OP, while you listed "he made a joke at school….please" in your post, you also listed it first as if it preceeded (or was isolated from) the rape/coverup allegations. I think it wasn't Winston's crude "joke" so much as the fact that it came after what many considered to be a BMOC rape coverup which turned a lot of people off; people who were already viewing Winston with a very jaundiced eye. That said, this guy's got the 'X' factor going. He wins games pure and simple, even with an OL that has had its share of problems keeping this guy clean in the pocket. As far as his "skills" go, in the game against Notre Dame, while rolling to his left he threw a pass down to the 3 yard line that required both strength and touch and put it on the money with defensive heat staring him in the face. While I like Mariotta (btw, Oregon - Stanford tonight) I'd also take Jameis Winston in a heartbeat.
You seem to not be alone with the bold. I don't understand why though, since he made some really awful throws in that game. He could have had 5 INTs in that game.
Yeah, I wouldn't consider it the best game he's played for sure. He was the reason the team was down, but you gotta give him props on the comeback. He played an incredible second half.
The more I have seen Marriota, the less I want the jets to select him, he is running the same offense that Geno is running now, he does not play from under center, one read offense, and if it's not there he is ready to run. Stay away from this type of qb, it does not translate to a successful NFL career. Please don't bring up Russell Wilson, he can play from under center just as well as the shotgun formation, and he can make every NFL throw. You know the old saying, if it looks, quacks, walks like a duck, then it's a duck. This duck ( Marriota) is not the answer for the jets.
So wrong on So many levels. Putting Geno and Mariota in the same sentence as a comparison is incredibly insulting to Mariota. Geno was and is a dope. Mariota will be able to do it all. _
If I remember correctly, Eugene had a very accomplished college career. We have had 2 years to see his style of college game not translate into an NFL career, it is my opinion that mariota will be the same, if he is not practicing it in his college career then it will be 2 years before people will realize that you can't force feed a qb something he never did and expect him to be successful at it. The jets want to run the WCO then we need to draft a qb who runs something similar to a pro style offense. If they select Marcus, the maybe they should just hire a college assistant as an OC who runs an offense that is used at the college level. JMO
You do not remember correctly. You remember bullshit hyped accounts about a dope who threw shovel passes and bubble screens to Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey who took then 80 yards for TDs. If you never saw him play you'd be wowed by his stats and the reports about him. He torched the likes of Marshall and James Madison (who knew James Madison played football, I thought it was a girls school). The reads Mariota is making, the throws Mariota is making, the sheer football IQ Mariota has dwarfs anything Geno did or had in college. Don't judge the system. Watch and judge the player, not the system. Geno was a mirage in college. Mariota is the real thing. Not to say he doesn't need to sit for a year and be developed, but he's worth the draft picks and the effort. Geno never was. _
I do watch college football, not every game because as you know, there are too many to follow. I remember watching Geno and from what I have seen Marcus is not doing anything different, he is a system QB, who relies on his legs to move the offense. It's not to say that he can't make certain reads because he can, but it's my opinion that he is not what the Jets need. Based on what I have seen, I don't want the jets to select a QB that can't run the offense from under center. Every franchise qb currently in the NFL has the ability to run a real NFL style system from under center. JMO.
All due respect but this response means you didn't watch Geno or Mariota at all. You're falling back on the "system" bullshit. Geno was no where near the QB Mariota is. And drafting an inferior talent at QB because he's had a year or 2 of pro set experience (against college and not pro defenses) as a 19-20 year old is monumentally silly. Mariota has the football IQ to pick up and excell in a pro set offense within 2 years as a 21-23 year old. The college pro set experience is such a silly red herring. It's not NFL experience. _
Btw, these statements are completely inapposite and illustrate a lack of awareness of their relative experiences. Geno rarely used his legs in college to move the offense. He used shovel passes to Austin and Stedman to move his offense. _
You are speaking like your opinion is based on a personal psychological evaluation of Marcus and its a prophecy that will come to fruition. It's all speculation. And yes I should have expounded a little more about the fact that they are system qbs but they are not identical in their style. Personally I don't think it's BS, that's why it's so hard to find a franchise qb, because you don't know if the qb is capable of playing football or is a byproduct of the system he uses in college. Sorry you don't agree but I'm entitled to my opinion.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but actually watching the 2 individual players and then favorably comparing the two because of the system is just lazy. _
Good for you! I work in CT but it's just as cold and rainy shitty here in NJ. I'm just busting balls, I'm 2 bottles of Malbec in with the GF. _
Yes let's draft a kid with a 4th grade reading level to be our franchise QB. This kid is legitimately learning disabled; one of the most mentally retarded players in FBS. The NFL game will destroy him. I was right about Sanchez, I was right about Geno, I was right about Tebow, and I will be proven right about this piece of trash who should be in jail right now for sexually assaulting a 19 year old girl.
Raping a girl is "antics"? Shooting up a dorm room with a BB gun is antics? The kid is mentally retarded. He will be a MASSIVE NFL flop.
Start here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...-stopped-by-police-at-gunpoint-181011282.html Or google "Jameis Winston BB gun" Was another of the convenient non-investigations into this retard.
