ESPN Page rips Favre.

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  1. JHTJ

    JHTJ New Member

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    C'mon, a Douche? Pennington was always loyal to your franchise was he not? Always a stand up guy with a teamate first mentality. I get that he never got the job done, but that's no reason to bad mouth the guy. If I was a Jets fan I'd be pissed that he went to the Fins, but the guy was cut by his own with next to no notice, does he owe any loyalty?

    I agree though, Fins fans would be sucking his dick and ignoring his antics as well. That doesn't include me, and it wouldn't make me less a fan either.

    In a way he was your version of Fiedler. I loved to hate that guy, so much heart, such a good teamate and motivator, but physically limited and never got it done. I appreciate what Fiedler did for the franchise, every game he laid it all out there, and I couldn't of asked for more.

    I'm not drinking the Pennington Kool-aid, and I was never one to knock the guy either. He beat us too many times... I would crack on how injury prone he was, but I don't expect him to make it 10 games with us either. We shall see.
     
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  2. JHTJ

    JHTJ New Member

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    C'mon man I don't pull shit out of my pocket to make a point. I've read how the events unfolded from multiple sources. I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure. The impression that I've gotten was that the Packers did in fact want him back, but they wanted to know soon. After he retired, he called them up and changed his mind the the FO actually schedualed a big Sha-Bang press conference and got the Private Jet ready to pick him up and the the turd sandwich actually called them up and backed out.

    You can't blame the franchise for not wanting to give the baby his bottle when the baby is in fact a 40 year old man...

    I'll dig up the info for you if you want but I'd rather not, I'd just as soon give you the argument then waste the time.
     
  3. notjustQBs

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    Well, I guess, it's easy to complain when the media make a football player into the kind of personal star that Brett Favre has become in the sports pubs.

    But after watching the process up close for a little while, Brett strikes me as a plain "good ole boy" that accepts what is and answers questions asked. The doting and intensity comes from the reporters.

    Brett seems to be what he says, pure and simple.

    I am actually a little impressed that he hasn't been made more crazy by the media perverting process that's obviously been going on around him for nearly twenty years.

    I guess I'm glad his wife asked him to think again about the NYJ a couple of weeks ago.

    He looks real, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    He's going to make you even sicker when he whips the Phins twice this year.
     
  5. JHTJ

    JHTJ New Member

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    I'll counter the sickness with laughter as I picture you Jets fans tuggin at your little wieners through a replica Favre Jersey as Madden warms you up with sweet nothings about his loverboy.
     
  6. JHTJ

    JHTJ New Member

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    Unfortunately for both of us, neither blunder will weild a SB win.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    But you still have to deal with him twice a year.

    Putting your hands over your face doesn't make you invisible just because you can't see him.
     
  8. puddnhead

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    The impression you got was from a story planted with Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel by a member of the Packer front office. The same paper, writer, and source responsible for other gems like the whole cell phone calls to the Vikings using a Packer issued phone, which was actually investigated by the NFL (since it would be tampering) and declared unfounded. So that's where that story came from.

    Favre has only once commented on this, when Greta V.S. asked him about it in their interview, he simply said "that's not how it went down at all." That's an exact quote. Now, since Favre & Packers have both declared this is all over and moved it, there's a good chance we may not know anything more about the truth until Favre does retire for real, at least. Perhaps never. Whatever really happened, I'm sure it's a lot more nuanced than the Packers welcoming him back with open arms & him blowing them off. Remember, the Packers supposedly welcomed him back with open arms at the end of July too -- while simultaneously saying he wouldn't be allowed to practice with the team, that he would be a backup, that accepting him back was a PITA that was "forcing the team to recross the Rubicon" in the offical PR about his reinstatement (talk about cold!), publicaly questioning if he really was committed to playing, etc.

    If their "welcome back" was no warmer in March than it was in July, you gotta wonder ...
     
  9. Determination#4

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    puddnhead,

    You are not really trying to get the deluded to listen to "facts" are you ? The people you are trying to convince probably think that TT sending Brett his locker was a good faith move lmao !!! They probably believe "present" Green Bay management didn't try to bribe him back into retirement.

    Heck, send them to the green bay gazette where half the fans want TT's head over this and have gone so far as to start fire TT websites. Yeah, sure Brett was the problem, right.:rofl:

    Like I said before "Don't feed the uneducated trolls" It's not worth it !!!
     
  10. winstonbiggs

    winstonbiggs 2008/2009 TGG Bill Parcells "Most Respected" Award

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    I have no problem with the Packers unloading Favre and I have no problem taking advantage of the situation when it was clear we needed a QB. We have two young QB on the roster both of whom have great skill and could be big time players, neither is ready. Pennington after 2 shoulder surgeries simply can't make all the throws and can't attack the field against good defensive teams. We had to make this move if we want to make some noise now and give our 2 young QB a chance to develop.

    I think the Pack did unload Favre, but even if they didn't I don't give a crap, it benifits the Jets in a huge way. We have upgraded the most important position by a huge amount. It may not work out, he might get hurt who knows. There is no way that this is a negative move by the Jets. It is the single biggest upgrade during the off season that this team has ever had since they drafted Namath.
     
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    This is exactly what I was alluding to when mentioning half truths that GB was involved in. This planting of info is Ari Fleischer's work IMO. He was working behind the scenes for GB a lot longer than people realize.
     
  12. puddnhead

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    Well the good news I hope -- trying to keep a Jets perspective here -- is that so far it looks like Favre used that "brutally honest" six hour (!) meeting with McCarthy his last night in Green Bay to get all his anger and frustrations out of his system, and has been able to emotionally move on and not dwell on it, and hopefully just get back to what he does best, playing football That's what it looks like to me, least not for now. That first press conference before the preseason opener he was nowhere near there yet, it was pretty sad & I imagine kinda worrisome to Jets fans.

    Who knows what his mind will be after this season ends, there is no way that whatever he says or does in next offseason will not take into account what he went through this year. Favre is not very good at separating his emotions from the business, it's part of what makes him play so great and fun to watch, but it has it's downsides too. The best case scenario (short of a Super Bowl win LOL) is that he does well enough to prove he still has it, but his competitive nature makes coming back to keep proving Thompson wrong a no-brainer, and for the first time in years it's a clear decision.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You are going to use the image of Jets fans beating off as a happy thought? Come on, dude, I thought you joined the Army, not the Navy.
     
  14. packerbacker1234

    packerbacker1234 New Member

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    While your at it, dig up the information where Favre utterly denied any such events occuring, and all he did was tell the packers a few months back he was thinking about it. If the packers really did plan a big shebang, as favre denies happened, then it looks to me as if it was the packers jumping the gun on favre merely contacting him. According to favre, until the annoucement that the public knew of with the itch, there was no clear indication Favre wanted to come back.

    Just saying, both sides have different stories. Giving the baby his bottle as you put it.. could of been utterly wrong. Didn't the packers try to pay him to stay retired? Oh sorry, that was a "PR rep" position for 10 years. Sorry, but I tend to leans towards favre.

    I don't do this as a Favre fan, but as a person who has been a fan of GB my whole life. The past few years it was made pretty apparent by TT that he didn't want Favre around, even if the direct words never came out. From not signing anyone to win now, to drafting players to win 5 years down the road, it was apparent TT wanted favre to retire 3 years ago. He just knows he can't say no to him... and now that he did he looks horrible for doing so based on how it happened.

    There are two sides to everything. See it how you must.
     

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