Ryan raves about him in his book. Now I know he's Rex's boss, but you know how Rex is, he tells it like it is. Besides that, he lays out the specific reasons why he says Woody is so great an owner. Rex loves the guy. Other than PSLs, what do we have to bitch about Woody for?
Woody has been a decent owner, who does really care about winning and making the Jets a proud team. Yet, when the day comes, and I will not be around for it, when the Jets finally have there own home that is share with no other (football) team, then we will have a truely great owner. Oh, and for that dickhead Cimini, that diehard fan base you mentioned is the majority of the Jets fanbase ,,,, you should know that,,,, Idiot....
Woody is a great owner, this is about winning and Woody has put the people in place to win. he cares about winning. Leon hess was not about winning but he was always fair to the fans as far as ticket prices, etc... I'd rather win and get gouged like we are w/ Woody than lose and be treated fairly like we were w/ Hess.
I've really come around to Woody Johnson as owner. When you look at the Jets as an organization when Hess was the owner compared to now and it is night and day. The Jets are now a first class New York franchise w/ top notch resources,facilities and consistency on the football field. One thing that has impressed me is that he took some negative feedback about 5 years back about the organization's inability to recognize/reward former players, and he did something about it. Since that timeframe we've seen the Jets ring of honor, marketing centered around team history, and a sense of aura among team greats like Namath,Maynard and Klecko. I believe this is a very underrated change. This creates a sense of tradition and family for fans, current players and of course the former players being recognized. Despite the lack of a super bowl since 69, this is a team that has had some good players and has won some historical games. It should mean something to be apart of the New York Jets..and now it does.
it fascinates me that people will sit here and say he is so great when all he has done is raise ticket prices 10% a year in the OLD stadium and THEN hit everyone with this cockamamie psl, in which they lied and deceived all of their most loyal fans. of course he is spending money, he has psls to sell. wait 5 more years, if he ever actually sells them all and can keep the upper deck full, AND can manage to not have half the crowd be opposing teams fans.... then i can guarantee you he wont be so inclined to spend money. lets remember the superbowl is coming to town in a few years. i am sure he would just love to be in it in new york. he just like jerry jones views that as the motherload... home superbowl... cha ching cha ching. dont be fooled, he doesnt give a shit about any of you other than the fact that you give him money... for the right to pay for seats in his stadium. that he can raise at any point by any amount and you have to pay it or walk away. i would quote you too ikilledkenny as i think your post was directed toward me and definitely my sentiment. however it helps to have reasoning.
i see no reason that tickets cannot be reasonable and still put a good product on the field. i would like to win and be able to afford to be there to see it. if i cant see it what the fuck is the point to winning anyway? the two things do not need to go hand in hand. time will tell, if woody keeps spending money 5 or 10 years from now then i will god willing come on here and say i was wrong, but i just have a bad bad feeling that after the superbowl his asshole is going to tighten up good. he wasnt known as the big spender until the past 3 years, before that we werent winning every year either, we would have a good year and then a bad year. we would finish 10-6 or well here are his stats as an owner starting with 2000 first. 9-7 10-6 9-7 6-10 10-6 4-12 10-6 4-12 9-7 9-7 11-5 even for the past 4 years he is a total of 33-31. things are good right now, the team took a 9-7 year and turned it into an afc championship game appearance and they were great last year. lets see a little consistency first before we decide to choose win and pay or lose and not pay. after all if we go 4-12 this year its not like woody is going to give back any of that psl money.
The 3 losing seasons were directly related to Cahd Pennington injuries. The franchise has never been better and the future has never looked brighter and alot of that has to do w/ Woody. I hate that he gouges the fans w/ that awful new Stadium and has been raising ticket prices forvever BUT it sure beats losing. In Woody's first decade we had more playoff apps than any other decade, the 6 playoff apps under his ownership(11 seasons) are only 2 less than the total from 1960-1999(30 seasons). The 6 playoff wins under Woody equal the total of the previous 30 years.
Seeing Kraft and Jones on this list makes me throw up in my mouth though. Besides just despising Kraft, I don't see how Jones makes any top 10 owners list? For what? If anything, that franchise has declined in popularity, success, and image over the past 10+years.
Kraft certainly belongs and there aren't many more influential owners than Jones plus he does have 3 SBs. They might be getting a bit dusty but I don't have a problem w/ him on there.
Alleycat, you're right that he cares more about money than about the fan. But what owner doesn't? Pretty much every owner on the list, and certainly every owner behind him on the list, is in it for the money. This is a business for them. No matter who our owner was, we would probably have some version of PSL's. That doesn't absolve Woody because it's still total BS, but show me the list of owners building new stadiums without the use of PSL's. It's a short list. RoyalTee mentioned he's been cheap with veterans, which is why I didn't say he always opens his wallet. But the few moves that seemed cheap (Faneca, Jones, Kendall, Baker) all worked out fine for us, except for the Kendall move (which is probably more on the GM). He lets his GMs make moves and he's not afraid to make splashes. As long as he has good football people in charge, and they keep making good moves, I don't think people can complain that much. Except season ticket holders. We have a right to complain, even though as I mentioned earlier, not many owners would have done much differently
He does alot right, but I'll never forgive him for not getting the Jets their own NY stadium. Stuck sharing with the giants for 99 years in dirty jersey.
its so sad that you don't understand the business of professional sports, and yet you are so convinced that your point of view is correct.
You can't see it because you aren't educated in the business of sports. How the fuck can you not see it when you spent so many years watching Hess put complete garbage on the field with affordable prices. The history of this team is the proof you need, but you just don't see what's in front of you. I feel bad that you can't. Fuck shitting on you. I just feel sorry for you now. Holy fuck. You really think he's going to stop winning once he has one ring? What owner in the history of all sports has done that? Winning one makes you hungrier for another. You're logic sucks, and I hope to don't infect other minds with this drivel. QB health has meant everything to how well the seasons have gone. Consistent QB health has meant winning seasons. But you clearly don't see that either. And by the way, he's been known as an owner who pays big contracts since he's been here. So I don't know where that's come from. You need to learn this game better. And you definitely need to learn how this is a business first, and a sport second. If you can't deal with that reality of professional sports - then stop watching and find something else to do on Sundays.
I don't know why Dolan doesn't get more blame for that. I didn't pay attention to that fiasco all too much because I was a teenager, but from what I've heard Cablevision is the reason why it didn't go smoothly. I do remember a former city employee with good credentials on the FAN years ago saying it was one of the biggest disappointments not getting that stadium because the revenue it would have given to the city would have been invaluable.
I'm at the beginning of chapter 8 right now, so the Woody chapter is right after it. And PSLs suck ass, but some genius lawyer found this hole in the law that can rape all fans of more cash. The Jets aren't alone in PSLs. Hey, Jerry Jones is asking for more money than Woody, and his team fields shit every year. They blow ass in the playoffs. At least we can tell that the Jets are on the cusp of being something truly special.
