Fair or not, Sanchez' first two seasons were successful seasons for the Jets as a team. That bought him two more. The first bad year was forgiven as a possible fluke, the next was a trend. I think most posts are for giving Geno another year. But if the season starts off bad, he'll be on a short leash. Rex can't afford another subpar season and he knows it.
Sanchez didn't do much his first two seasons... The defense carried us as far as we went. The expectation for Sanchez was to be the guy and he couldn't live up to that.. There are no expectations for Geno and he has done much more than we thought he could.. He is gonna surprise a lot of people this season and I can't wait.
Geno was hideous last year, the only reason he looked better at the end of the season was because they limited Smith, we'll know what we have in Smith this season, but his improvement has to be significant
It's hilarious that when board trolls start a thread it gets shut down, but when ESPN trolls Jets fans it gets six pages...
And if he doesn't, the Jets also don't have any real commitment to keeping him like they did with the other guy. CJ is right, he's got a short leash.
I'm fine with Geno having a short leash. But Jay bizniss hit the nail on the head. Most of the people calling for Geno's head also never wanted to see Sanchez go. Anyone that thinks Sanchez was even respectable in his rookie regular season is embarrassing themselves. Give Geno the year. If he improves a lot, then stick with him. If not, don't. It's pretty simple.
The salary cap prevented the Jets from drafting early for a qb during Sanchez' first 4 seasons. Sanchez was signed before the rookie scale was adjusted and after he was signed, team salary caps contracted. Cutting Sanchez was not viable due to the salary cap. Look at what the team did after they were able to draft Geno. They put Sanchez in the 4th qtr of a preseason game without adequate protection and left him in there for well longer than a set of downs. So it isn't really fair to use Sanchez' tenure with the team as a standard for Geno. There really isn't anything wrong with making Geno compete with a blue chip prospect young qb. Does anyone remember Steve Walsh vs Troy Aikman or Steve Deberg vs Joe Montana?
Who in this thread is giving up on geno? its easy to pick out the geno apologists when they have to make strawman arguments to try and make a point. no point was actually made btw, it was an attempt though.
What a joke. I was down on Geno, but no way he's the worst QB in the league. You don't win 8games with the worst QB in the league. Sorry "insiders" you're wrong again.
Most people felt he needed a year or two on the bench to learn before he could start. Then he got drafted in the 2nd round at #39 overall. Then he was thrown into the fire with Sanchez's injury. Then he led the team to an 8-8 record despite inconsistent/poor play from most of the team, including himself. I don't get how all that adds up to being the worst QB in the NFL. Sounds kind of promising, considering the situation.
That's so laughable. If Sanchez was semi-competent, we would have won two Super Bowls in a row. We didn't get to the AFCC because of a QB who completed only 53.8% of his passes the first year and 54.8% the second. Geno did better with less this year. Sanchez had better targets, a better run game, and a better o-line.
I disagree somewhat with both of your statements. The Jets may not have a financial commitment to Smith because he was a second round draft pick, but they do have an organizational commitment. Last year was basically a throw away year. Smith wasn't ready, was forced into the job early because of the Sanchez injury and there was no viable back up to turn to, and he was provided with absolutely horrible skill players. It was virtually impossible for him to succeed. Plus he had nobody to make the easy throws to, which made it doubly hard on him - he had no TE and no RB to fall back on when he got in trouble. This is really his "rookie" year. He had a full offseason to better learn the offense and work on his game and he now has an actual NFL offense to play with (and practice with - don't forget last season Holmes, Ivory, Winslow, Kerley, Hill, etc were all injured or coming off injuries and Smith never had continuity in practice or games). The issue the Jets have (and every NFL team has) is that they have to field a quality QB to win. They need to find out if Smith is the guy or not. So I don't think he'll have a short leash. I think he will play 16 games unless he in injured or awful for a long stretch of the season, not just a few games. Vick is nothing more than a stopgap. If Vick plays because Smith is awful, he is not a long term answer, is injury prone himself, and the Jets have to go back to well to find and develop another QB, which will take 2-3 more seasons. So there is a lot riding on Smith in terms of time and commitment and that will provide him with a fairly long leash IMO. If he shows steady improvement, he will keep the job. He doesn't have to light it up. If his completion percentage moves up into the high 50's, his turnovers drop from mid 20's to somewhere in the mid to high teens, his TD's increase to the low 20's, he moves the chains reasonably well and keeps the defense off the field, and is clutch at the end of some games, he will keep his job this season and next. The Jets don't want to start over by drafting another QB in 2015 and can not reasonably rely on Vick to be the starter for 2-3 seasons.
This post is hilarious... we had an all-time top 10 qb in passing completion% and never made it as far as the Sanchez led teams did. And Geno had twice the weapons than Sanchez had in the worst year he had. You crack me up bud.
This post is hilarious... we had an all-time top 10 qb in passing completion% and never made it as far as the Sanchez led teams did. And Geno had twice the weapons than Sanchez had in the worst year he had. You crack me up bud.
Who did Geno have? Kerley? Guy missed multiple games due to injury. Holmes? 2013 Holmes is a laughingstock worth nothing. Nelson? Okay, decent receiver but nothing to write home about. Jeff Cumberland? Issues with getting separation. Winslow? Above-average year thanks to PEDs. Hill? LOLno. Old broken down offensive line mixed with youths who weren't that great. Let's look at who Sanchez had in 2009. Cotchery, who was better than anyone on Geno's list. Edwards, who was actually good and at the time better than everyone I listed now except maybe Kerley. Keller was a much better catcher than Cumberland. Then in 2010, he had Edwards who was still good, Holmes who was still good, Keller, Cotchery, and a great pass-catcher RB in Tomilson. The offensive line was great both years. The supporting cast around Sanchez was much better than what Geno had to work with last year.
