I'm going to be honest and say that even with the upgrades on offense, he is still not going to become the type of QB that will take us beyond one playoff appearance. Reading defenses, switching to the right protections, looking off the safeties, all the little things that good QB's do, I don't see him as that QB. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see Geno Smith a the jets franchise QB.
2nd Round picks rarely are seen as Franchise QB's. That is why they drop. I don't think Geno is one either, but he has a shot this year to prove people wrong.
He also had a lower qb rating than Terrelle Pryor. Here's what I find truly amazing about this discussion. Nick Foles had a 119 qb rating and the talk in Philly is if he doesn't repeat with a good season then the Eagles should look for another qb. Geno Smith plays horrendous and many on this board are bending over backwards to make excuses for him. I imagine that most of the league is closer to Philly's position than to ours. My question for this board is, "What the hell is in the kool-aid that you're drinking?" You get flamed here for suggesting such blasphemy as the idea of looking for another qb.
The article is referencing the ranking of all the starting QB's in the nfl. The heart of the conversation is comparing geno against them.
Link to your Nick Foles story. I understand why some people are skeptical about Geno. However before writing him off for good at least lets see how he performs in year 2. He has a year of experience, and he'll be playing in the same system. They've added weapons. It's all up to him to show us that he can be a franchise QB. I just think the reason he's getting another shot is because he had some decent early season performances (vs Bills, vs Falcons, vs Patriots) and then he bounced back and had a solid stretch of games to end the season. I think they want to see if he can build on that and improve which IMO is reasonable. If Geno fails they can send in Vick to salvage the season. Plus they have Boyd as a developmental QB.
There were times where he looked absolutely dreadful. I don't have a problem with the ranking. For the record I think he will show great improvement in year 2.
Geno Smith didn't win 4 playoff games, including wins at Indy vs Peyton Manning and at NE vs. Tom Brady or throw an 80 yard TD in an AFC Championship Game either. When you perform like that, you develop fans. Some fans have more patience than others.
You act as if Sanchez put the Jets on his back and carried them to 4 playoff victories. Anyone who was paying attention knows that's not the case. Point being, the JETS won 4 playoff games, not just Sanchez.
Agreed. The point is if Geno Smith led the Jets to the AFC title game last year, he wouldn't be ranked #32 out of 32 and he would have more supporters. There is nothing wrong with giving him a chance (like I am) this season, but no Jets fan should feel tied to Geno just yet.
That is true but Sanchez had some good wideouts the first few years. I'm not saying Geno going to be great but all the great QB have a damn good/great wr.
2013: Eli 27 ints, 4 fumbles 2013: Geno 21 ints, 4 fumbles As much of a Int machine Geno was, 2x SB Champ Eli Manning was worse by 6 ints.
Rookie season with no viable receivers and he is voted worse QB in the leage. Lol , I hope these losers who voted are ready to eat some crow this year.
Geno is NOT the weakest starting QB in the league... Thats just media hot garbage to attract hits to their website from a large fan base... Nothing more. Geno isn't even the weakest QB in our division! cough cough EJ is shit...
Geno is way better than sanchez. I'd bet money sanchez woulda led us to 5-11 or worse last year with what we had , even when he did have good WR's he sucked outside of the 4th quarter comeback games & the playoff wins.
I don't think anyone among this fan base is gonna turn down Andrew Luck in favor of Geno Smith if that sort of scenario were on the table. Was there a QB in this past draft/FA crop you thought was a better option than Geno? Highly debatable. There is absolutely nothing wrong w/ supporting a conventional "develop a young QB" approach w/ a young talented player like Geno. I understand that recent exceptions to the rule like Andrew Luck,RG3 & Cam Newton have muddled prevailing wisdom that young QB's have peaks & valleys within their early performances. I also understand that we're coming off a very similar experiment in Sanchez that failed miserably & painfully. But the historical data is overwhelmingly in favor of the notion that even the greatest of QB's have battled through struggles early in their career. Why not just accept that for what it is? It'd be one thing if Geno showed absolutely NOTHING promising after 16 games. There are rookie QB's who do that.Maybe then I could see tossing a guy aside or simply labeling him a back-up. But that wasn't the case with Geno. He had impressive moments in even some of his WORST games. He had some ugly moments in some of his better efforts. That's all part of the learning curve. Do you think he's reached his ceiling after 1 season? A guy who had extremely limited experience under center who was thought to be raw coming out of college, playing w/ a lousy skill group has no chance of improvement w/ a full off season & a better surrounding cast in year 2? Sorry...I'm not buying that under any circumstances. Who knows..maybe he doesn't get any better.Maybe a year from now the jets are intensifying their search for the answer at signal caller with guys like Brett Hundley possibly entering the draft. But we aren't there yet. You have to see your investments through in the NFL. You don't just cast talented young QB's aside at the first sign of adversity. Unless you have insider access to Jets offensive QB meetings,know their play book, protection calls & all 22 film..I'm not sure how you can possibly begin to even evaluate such things. How do you know what the proper pre-snap read is on any given play? Was he even the one making the protection calls..? I'm pretty sure Mangold handled that for much of last season. We have no idea what is said on the sidelines, in the huddle or said to Geno in his helmet. For all we know MM told him to force the ball to specific players pre-snap which caused interceptions..or big plays for that matter. And that goes for any QB in this league. You're assuming all of this based off the finish product. Which is something I alluded to earlier. Yes..the finished product needs to get better. But don't go making observations about things you can't possibly have full knowledge of. If you wanna say he doesn't have the arm/Footwork/accuracy/ball security or larger more obvious attributes..fine.You are entitled to that opinion. But when you get into advanced decision making/protection schemes & downfield reads...that's just grasping at straws. *OT: Sorry for any of my double or even triple posts. Having some computer issues.I tried editing them but my explorer will not grant access to the editing script. Perhaps an MOD can lend some assistance. Thanks!
