He looked great against the Bills at home. I want to see him back it up with a strong performance in Pittsburgh. Then we can talk about whether the credit goes to him, Sparano, the OLine, Rex, Tanny, Hill, or whoever. Just get me a W in Pittsburgh and you all can have at it.
Statistics that don't match what you see in front of you aren't worth a lot. Last year the Jets had a very low percentage of stable pockets the entire season. It didn't completely fail to happen but we all saw Sanchez squirming around and running for his life more often than being able to setup and make a throw. When Sanchez did get hit the hits often were blindside hits or of the "I just beat Wayne Hunter or Matt Slauson instantly and to the inside no less" variety and Sanchez had almost no reaction time. What we saw on Sunday was a stable pocket for almost the entire game. Sanchez got hit twice all game that I saw and not before he threw the ball either time. Sanchez set up in the pocket and made the throws in front of him. Because the pocket was there. Anybody who thinks Sanchez had good protection last year just wasn't watching the games very closely. The first play of the year he got buried on an inside rush by DeMarcus Ware and that's how the year went. So I'm going to go with the lies, damn lies and statistics angle on this one. The statistics are less accurate than a damn lie.
I'm with you on this, I just can't believe Mark had one of the best protection in the league last year. How do they quantify this stat? Because from what I saw last year, and I watched every game last year, was Mark Sanchez either running for his fucking life, or getting blind sided and losing his virginity by Ed Reed & Co. Does scrambling count towards that protection? I just can't buy that Mark Sanchez was one of the best protected QBs last year. I just can't. Not from what I saw. I feel like an idiot if this stat is true but it's one of those situations where you saw what you saw and you're SO ADAMENT about it, and then someone tells you the opposite happened.
Just to piggyback the two previous posts... Cimini's statistical observation also neglects that Sanchez rushed many of his passes last year, even when he wasn't hit/sacked, because he was anticipating pressure because he had no faith in his protection.
To say he was one of the "best protected" QBs last year doesn't really mean anything - that's not a stat. It would be nice if he qualified that statement with the stats he's using to back it up. Does that mean he was hit the least? Sacked the least? Hurried the least? Without showing the numbers he's basing it on it's a meaningless statement. As others have already pointed out, anybody who watched the Jets last season saw that Sanchez was under duress constantly. Not that he didn't make his fair share of poor plays and bad decisions, but he certainly didn't have it easy as far as protection was concerned.
Only 4 QB's got sacked more than Sanchez (39) last year. Any article that tries to say he was well protected is just garbage, well protected QB's do not tread not the top of the list.
This is just a case of an "expert" simply looking at #s and nothing else. watch the tapes and let me know what you find. He was constantly under pressure and had no open receivers to throw to.
What a shitty article. Really Rich? Sanchez was one of the better protected QB's in the league? Are you really that stupid?
I can't believe how often the Sanchez defenders ignore the fact that sacks are not the sole or even better measure of OL pass protection. QB hits are at least as good, and I would argue better. Sacks go up when the Qb holds the ball too long. Anyone who wants to argue that last year Sanchez did not hold the ball too long was not watching the games. The metric that Cimini referred to was not limited to sacks; nor should it have been. "Stats Lie" - not as much as rose colored glasses wearing homers. Now, I am encouraged very much by Sanchez's performance this past Sunday. But it was only one game. Let's hope he keeps it up.
The offense of line was banged up last year and had a horrible right tackle there is no arguing that. We started a center that does not even belong in the NFL last season.
Sanchez held the ball on longer than he should have at times because our receivers struggled to get open. Plax NEVER could get separation and the play designs were poorly conceived. Plus, after getting rocked (and he got hammered last year make no mistake about it) I'm sure that he was looking at the rush more than he was at downfield at times.
Wayne Hunter?!? Still remember Von Miller bull rushing him for a sack (someone he outweighs by close to 70 lbs)...WH must have been a very good practise player because he was a massive reason for our poor OL problems... What about Mangold missing some early games? We looked very JV without him...Anyway cant take that article seriously...just watch the Baltimore game...
Funny how he's just as good as most of the qbs in his age group yet you never see them get railed on. Matt ryan used to get dumped on for being a regular season fantasy qb who doesn't show up for the playoffs. The falcons have one good game and somehow he's arrived. there's been a huge push in media outlets that sanchez is trash and people just co sign anytime a analyst doubts him. I. Don't blame anyone for doubting sanchez consistency. But what he did Sunday was the most complete game he's had in the regular season. Pump fakes, not staring down recievers, etc etc. If it were brady plays like his first throw to kerley in the back of thd endzone would get remarks like "see its throws like this that few qbs in the nfl can make" but its sanche so people say "nice throw" And as far as Ciminis stat there, maybe he was hit less cause he was busy forcing errant passes, throwing INTs instead of getting crushed at a david carr rate. The guy has no credibility just the access to information that makes people listen.
It was the poor pocket + Schottenheimer's dickhead system that got us. Listen, I know Sanchez isn't very smart, so why the fuck do you want him to get into a system that completely plays against his strengths. Stop asking him to be Tom Brady.
Not that I necessarily think the numbers mean anything but there are 2 QB's in the NFL who got exactly the same 28 score on the Wonderlic that Sanchez did. Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. Who of the current starting QB's scored the highest? Ryan Fitzpatrick by a mile at 48. Alex Smith was next at 40 and Eli is a lot "smarter" than his brother at 39.
I'm taking his preseason into account as well. TDs or not, he played exceptionally better than he has in the past.
