ESPN (Cimini) personal feud with Holmes

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  1. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    when the hell was the last time somebody took cimini seriously?

    guy is a joke. i have to think that holmes is talking about the shit about him tossing his helmet at training camp and all of that shit as well, which, cimini was all over espn calling it a temper tantrum and all that other crap, trying to stir up controversy and alienate holmes from the fanbase.

    gotta feel for holmes here, think about it like this. you are a player on a team, you have once been a superbowl mvp, with one of the most amazing catches in a superbowl; you try to be a team player, you take the C on your jersey, you teach and work with younger guys on the team, you do charity work all offseason. then this cocksucker cimini comes along and calls you a whiney baby because the entire team imploded last season ending with an on field incident with you getting into an argument with someone in the huddle. you and your teammates make up and get ready to move on to the next season. you have mark over to your house in florida during the offseason and work out together etc. its really just ridiculous at this point.

    dont we as fans want to move on from last year as well? as im sure you are all aware, holmes is signed for a few more years here, and he is a guy who you can count on in the clutch moments. if they can all get along, he can do great things for the team, so why is it the medias job to make it harder for them by egging on controversy that doesnt exist?
     
  2. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    However, if Cimini considers himself a sports "reporter" then I can consider myself a sports news genius with the small sampling of articles I've posted on this site.

    Cimini has been nothing but negative nancy for the last 3 years. Fuck him.

    And its obvious Manish is vying for a spot at ESPN cause his articles have gone south the last 6 months.
     
  3. tank75

    tank75 Well-Known Member

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    sports writers are all just opinionated assholes now. and its not really just sports journalism, its all journalism. mainstream journalism at least. everyone is just so far up their own asses that they dont understand the pivotal role journalism plays in our society. journalists today need to get over themselves and realize that their opinion means dick in the field, and their job isnt to report their opinion, its to report what is going on. not to leave things out because it hurts their argument, or to emphasize things that are of little importance because it helps. the news is more entertainment than journalism now a days. cimini is a fraud. he probably gets that empty feeling in his stomach when he thinks about his journalistic integrity.
     
  4. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    It's also not media job to constantly shit all over a team, nor it is to selectively pick only negative. Cimini would be right in this argument if he were actually doing what he preaches: reporting news. The problem is, he doesn't.

    That said, Holmes needs to grow up, he is taking the bait like a 9-yo.
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I don't believe he does that, I think that is the perception of the fan base. There are plenty of times when Cimini writes positive stuff but you guys only remember the negative stuff. You guys want him to act like the Jets have won the last 5 SBs.
     
  6. Ajitator

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    This is another prime example of the great Dick C. The JETS are shopping for a blocking TE. Cedric Benson just stated the Jets worked him out beginning of the summer. Training camp starts in a short few days. JETS have possibly the most enticing group of rookies to join the team they've ever had. Yet, The article Cimini needs to put out is bashing Holmes for "whining" about the media being too negative.

    For every 1 article Cimini writes that are about any kind of positive thing, there are 5-10 that are completely bashing a player or coach or the FO. Between the "Tebow > Sanchez", "Revis hate's his contract" and "Holmes is an a-hole" articles, i've almost completely stopped going to ESPN for news. and Cimini is at the heart of the issue.

    This was pretty much the breaking point for me.
    http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2012/05/darrelle_revis_refuese_to_guar.html

    There are 100s of questions me as a fan could think of to ask Revis if I was posted in front of his locker and given the chance. This Dick goes on and on about the same question that he knows Revis isn't going to answer just because he knows that's going to be the easiest, most negative story for him to write. Report about football, not about drama.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    so you don't think revis potentially holding out is a big story?
     
  8. RuJFan

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    That's not my take. Or rather -- yes, sometimes he writes non-negative articles, but I believe his reasons for doing so are:
    1. To avoid appearing completely and hopelessly biased. He's not stupid, he's seen how Jets put Francesco in the dog house. This gig is his bread & butter & caviar and he won't jeopardize it to the point where Fatso's fate might become a reality.
    2. To boast support of some fans (like you, for example) who will give him benefit of the doubt. Basically, he sprinkles some rose petals on top of the mountain of shit just so he (and you, the fan!) can plausibly say "See! It's not all the crap all the time!"
    3. He dreams of "managing" the team -- through influencing popular (fan & media) opinion that it turn might influence Jets' action. The manager behind the scene, the puppet master, the Napoleon of NY media, The whore of Babylon.

    My point is that while you're right and Cimini does write positive things from time to time, at the end of the day those things are self-serving. More importantly, he is not a Reporter (as in giver of the news), but a commentator masquerading himself as an unbiased observer.
     
  9. Ajitator

    Ajitator Well-Known Member

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    Not until he actually holds out, or says he's going to be holding out. Everything he's reported about this is speculation or bending of words.

    Revis' frustrating with Cimini is palpable in that video, and even the other reporter pokes fun at Cimini for asking the same question over and over again rather then moving on and actually getting something to report. I can't imagine that you or I would be any better at handling his incessant nagging questions. Without letting up one line that he could use against the players. Which he often does.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/12695/revis-contract-issue-here-we-go-again
     
  10. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Cimini invented the potential holdout story. Revis has specifically said "he's fine" with his contract and NEVER threatened holding out this year.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The Revis story was going to be a story whether Cimini brought it up or not and he did his job by bringing it up b/c when the new deal was agreed to 2 years ago there was talk he could be holding out again in 2012. It was a short term fix, Cimini did his job by asking that question and revis has never said he would or wouldn't hold out but all his talk is a threat to hold out.
     
  12. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    If he were to do it, this would be a story.
    It's like writing a story on TGG member's nyjunc joining **insert name of organization you hate**. Nyjunc never said he was planning to joint that organization, but potentially you could, so why not write an article about it & then ask Nyjunc an "innocent" question, like so:

    "Mr. Nyjunc, there were reports from some sources and some experts speculated that you're planning to join **organization**. Could you please explain why do you contemplate joining them disgracing your team?"
     
  13. Ajitator

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    Three weeks ago, Revis squashed the speculation by telling reporters that he's "cool" with his current deal, adding, "l I signed it two years ago. I'm not unhappy about nothing."

    When it was brought up Thursday in the locker room, Revis said, "Here we go with the contract questions." He continued, "I'm here and I'll be playing. I'm getting ready for this season, that's all I can do. Anything with my contract, we'll deal with that in the future. Right now, I have to get prepared for this year." ​
     
  14. RuJFan

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    Sorry, but this is just plain bullshit. How do you know it would have been a story? There was no story until Cimini made it up.
     
  15. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Bullshit. If Cimini doesn't keep blasting Revis with the same question over and over and following up on a non-story it's never a story. Revis never threatened holding out this year. Cimini wants everyone to believe he might because it generates a lot of hits to his webpage in the dead of the offseason.

    The Jets didn't sign that contract with any intentions of ripping it up and redoing it this year. You can't really believe otherwise, can you?

    edit:
    The Revis Two Year Argument
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    and he has also said he doesn't know if he'll hold out

    Amazingly enough that wasn't Cimini.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...snt-know-if-hell-hold-out-from-training-camp/


    from 2010:
    Cimini did his job bringing it up.

    All the speculation at the time was that he could holdout again in 2 years and this was immediately after the new deal was announced.

    from 2010:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/12/jets-floored-by-revis-comments-on-his-contract/

    so you think revis may holdout only b/c Rich Cimini rightfully asked him the question?

    revis has never committed to not holding out so that IS threatening a hold out.
     
  17. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    No, i think there's zero chance Revis holds out and Cimini, Revis, his agents and the Jets know that for a fact.
     
  18. The Jets wanted to be a mainstream team...the drama aspect of the media's reporting is part of the price you pay for that type of exposure. Look at the Cowboys & you'll see my point. However, I do think the Jets media group is WAY too negative compared to other team's...and you almost get the sense they want the team to fall on their face. That's not fair & not normal.

    As for Cimini...There are acouple things I like about his reporting: Compared to Mehta, Ventras, etc..he will write about X's and O's...as well as on the field specifics. Most other Jet beat writers just follow the main headlines or do random player interviews.

    What I don't like? It is clear as day he doesn't like this franchise. He is WAY too negative in his reporting & often goes out of his way to try & make the Jets hiarchy appear ill-prepared & dumb. Also, the whole "Druggie" comment about Kenric Ellis was unforgiveable. To make matters worse he never apologized.
     
  19. Jetaho

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    The New York media is crap. Remember when Manish wrote in-depth articles about players and personalities on the team? His reporting was really good. It told me something I didn't know. It showed that he had done the work to get a story. It wasn't lazy. It didn't rely upon anonymous sources and conjecture. It didn't confront players and try to stir up shit. Obviously, it didn't sell papers either. Manish has now gone the way of Cimini and Adam Schein, feeding us nothing but crap.
     
  20. displacedfan

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    Is tebow being the starting QB a potentially big story? There was nothing from revis or his agents saying he is holding out the past 4 months yet we have two separate articles from cimini talkin about the potential. Neither article states why it would be more beneficial for revis to hold out this year rather than next year. He also called one of our players a druggie.

    I like Jenny vrentas and Mehta as writers. There is also another guy for some nj paper I like. Oh and Lisa Zimmerman is good too. Their articles are ground and neither overly negative or positive and lay out stuff. In my opinion they do this at much more higher rate than cimini does.
     

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