Eric Decker Officially a New York Jet

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  1. JStokes

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    There are maybe 15 TRUE number 1 WRs in the league and another 17 who are at the top of their depth charts.

    Some folks think that if you are at the top of the depth chart you are a number 1 WR.

    Meaning last year Jeremy Kerley was a number 1 WR in the NFL.

    It's a silly concept. Yet there are folks out there putting some significance on it.

    Silly. Or just confused.

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  2. joe

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    If you would permit,
    me to say Kenny Britt,
    has no grit,
    and whose character ain't worth shit,
    and whose brain needs a retrofit
    and to 'the team' he wouldn't commit
    not exactly, a "Jets stock" split.
    While I don't mean to nit pick
    but John eff'in Idzik
    would, like Nicholson in "About Schmidt"
    not be able to admit, as good-sense would have it
    that this walking, talking snit, is definitely not worth it.

    Kenny Britt, whose 'commit' ain't legit
    toss him in the orchestra pit....assuredly, lickety split..

    Yours truly prefers, many others,
    Brandon Coleman, Rutgers.
     
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  3. soxxx

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    Say what you want but when teams played the Denver Broncos the defensive coordinators designed gameplans with the goal of stopping Thomas or Welker. When teams play the Jets next year, the goal (as of now) would be to take Decker out of the game. Hes our biggest threat at this moment. Decker had the advantage of beating up on the weak corners of every team because he wasnt the one demanding the attention, when he went up against the Seattle secondary which is well rounded and has no weak point, they took Decker out of the game with ease. Thats not a good sign, he wasnt getting the attention when he was on the Broncos, now on the Jets, he is going to be getting the attention of the opposing teams top corners and im not entirely sure he can handle it. He certainlty couldnt handle the coverage in the Super Bowl, is he ready to see that every week? He better be because Idzik paid him as much as any other free agent WR on the market this year.

    The best case scenario is we draft a WR that can fit the role as the top WR.
     
  4. JStokes

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    You should just change your username to "I Hate Decker".

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  5. soxxx

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    And rewatch the Jets-Broncos game in 2011, when we had a duo of Cromartie-Revis, Decker got absolutely shut down the entire game. No separation, nothing, Its easy to beat up on the bottom tier corners but when he goes up against the best, it does not like pretty.
     
  6. TonyMaC

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    a #1 WR is nothing more than a player thats far and a away the best WR on a team, wether due to poor talent on the part of the other 4-5 Wide receivers or because they have a unique and well above average set of skills, to a point where they manifest significantly better stats in comparison to their peers.

    They get targeted the most because its obvious they should be targeted the most when you look at the other guys basically.

    this is a position with 2 starters. realistically theres 1A and 1B, a slot receiver, and then the depth wideouts. Even if one guy has a better overall skill set than the opposite starter, over targeting one in a dramatic way is more symptom of significant talent disparity than anything else.

    #1, #2 and etc seem like misnomers made for people who like to play fantasy football and are looking for guys who'll get them the most points. the guys that are given more targets that of course generally have the talent to back up being used that way fit the bill.

    that said Decker was really more of a 1B to Thomas's 1A. Decker got targeted 136 times, Thomas 142.

    there was really only ever a marginal usage gap, to the point where the #1/#2 designation doesn't fit.
     
  7. soxxx

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    I dont hate Decker, I just find it odd that the Jets pay a 3rd option the most money among all the WR's on the market, yet we have guys like Hakeem Nicks who for pretty much his entire career, has been the top option. Hakeem Nicks was the heart and soul of that offense and he made Victor Cruz who he is, and when Nicks went down, Victor Cruz couldnt handle the role of being #1 because of Nicks absense. At the same time, Nicks has achieved great things as the #1 role and I believe has proved he can handle the attention.

    I would sign Nicks right now, if you want to get the most out of Decker.
     
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    Im pretty sure that wouldnt happen, ive managed to anger quite a few people on this board with my critical review of the Eric Decker signing. Better yet Chuck, when I am wrong about Decker, you can rip me as much as you want. I'm fair game.
     
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    Its like Santonio Holmes, Holmes was not a #1 guy. Holmes needed a Braylon Edwards to draw attention away from himself in order to get the most production. My issue with Decker is we paid him the most money of all free agent wide receivers this offseason, if he is going to be paid #1 of all free agent WRs, I expect a lot out of him.
     
  10. TonyMaC

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    what is the type of deal you would give him out of curiosity?

    You seem to feel as though a guy slated to make way more than what he got from NYJ that had as many targets and receptions as any of the other top tier Wideouts was overpaid.

    Say he's willing to take what you want, reasonably so, don't exaggerate and say vet min.
     
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    The reason we didn't go for Nicks is because of his character concerns... Idzik is gung ho about people that fit the "Jet Way".... That means he doesn't want any locker room or off the field trouble... He would rather not get talent than bring in someone that is going to disrupt what we have going.
     
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    More closer to 4-5 million a season, but luckily the contract is basically only a 2 year deal. Year 3 we have to pay him 8 million to stick around, 0 guaranteed money though.
     
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    This was also a weak WR class and Decker is the best of them so what is your point?
     
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    I dont see anything wrong with Nicks from a character view. The issue he had last season was that Cruz got paid and he didnt, which is fair because he believed the Giants were screwing him which he was right about considering they have no interest in paying him now or ever. The Giants chose Cruz over him which is the Giants mistake but I am not going to complain about that.
     
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    Decker is a very good route runner, has pretty good hands, attacks the ball in the air, doesn't go down easy when he has the ball and can make yards after the catch. His route running reminds me of one of those little receivers like Welker but he's a big bodied guy too which is obviously added value.

    I don't know why anyone would complain about adding someone like that to the team. Maybe he'd have more support if he was black.
     
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    Lets hope the Patriots dont sign Cromartie, I dont want to see Decker get held to 0 catches/0 yards again.
     
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    Cromartie shut him down, nuff said.
     
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    Remember that Steelers-Broncos playoff game? You can probably guess how many catches Decker had, exactly. Guy cant handle any decent CBs, got destroyed by Cromartie, Seattle, Steelers, etc.
     
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    I was not posting under this account during the 2011 free agency for various reasons which I am not going to talk about, you can look it up. I was under a different username.
     

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