I'm nearly convinced after reading threads over the past few months, that even if Pennington leads us to the super bowl and wins it, fans would still talk crap about him.
That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Wanting ints over positive gains. I'm sure our defense will hold up great when they're on the field 75% of the game becuase of turnovers.
I just held a five minute therapy session with my Jets inner soul... trying to determine which is worse. When CP throws for 3 yards on 3rd and 10, I hit things. A KC interception in the endzone? I sort of sit (or stand) there, with a blank stare on my face as I realize we're damned to another season of torture. I hope neither happens TOO OFTEN this season :smile: because both suck pretty bad, almost as bad as the old draw play on 3rd and 10.
I am convinced that the die hard Pennington guys just don't get it. Ask any non-Jet fan that follows the NFL what they think about our QB situation and they'll tell you it sucks. That's any analyst, writer or fan of another team. That's why we're having a competition, because our QB situation sucks ass. Only teams with shitty QB situations have QB competitions. He's just not very good.
Hey, that's what I always say. I just don't say the "makes everything better" part. KOZ, I think the bottom line is Chad needs many great players around him to be good. Somebody like a Favre (in his prime) does not need as high a caliber player around him to still be great.
What about the flip side when he completes passes gets us in the end zone and the defense does not have the pressure of winning 10-6 games every f**king week for years! Great Qb's have the luxury of making mistakes because they try to make plays. Not check down every 3rd and 10 because they can't complete a pass. T/D's win games!
You are going to get dink and dunk interceptions with KC.... last year should have shown you that much. You folks that think a QB change is going to automatically give us some exciting run n' gun offense are not dabbling in reality. The playbook and the offense is what it is.
Please go youtube the pass and you will see he was hit and that is why the ball came out of his hand. There have also been numerous pictures on this site proving as such.
And the funny thing is that he's not even "cerebral" in his gameplay anymore! Years ago, he could fool the best of them with his play action- that's not happening anymore. Couple that with his eye direction giving up too many plays and the fact that he is prone to setting up his receivers for insane hits, ala Coles, or throwing very good passes to opposing defenses, and what do you really have left? Oh wait, he's a great guy...And let's not forget what he did when Testaverde went down many, many years ago... I'd be doing him injustice if I didn't point to his great mobility which stands to compete with Michael Vick in his prime. He does give a downright nasty "First Down" motion though, doesn't he?
The play book was designed for what we have. Dumb it down for success. Smash mouth football and passes that stretch the field. Not 8 men in motion so Chad can check down to Leon Washington on 3rd and 10.
The same pass play where the O-Line had broken down quickly, as had been the case all season for Penningshit and Clemens.
Agreed! Chad pick sixed us to how many losses last year at the end of games. With pass protection. That is why he ended up on the bench in the first place. Chad threw 17 t/d and 16 int the year before and was 1-8 this year and we are going to have a debate about the smarts of a weak armed QB!
Reading the camp reports about Clemens and knowing Chad's past history, I feel as though we as fans are being asked to accept the "less-smelly" pile of dog shit...
The CP bashing is pointless. If we had a good QB that was competing with him, that'd be one thing, but you're all bashing CP with an inexperienced QB in KC who's not having such a good TC to this point. You think its going to be that much better? Either way there will be major QB issues this season, and there will continue to be until the front office gets us a real franchise QB. But please continue on... the people who like CP can keep defending him and bashing KC, and the people who like KC can do the same! In the end neither QB is going to get this team anywhere. Commence pointless bashing.
Who says it doesn't suck?? but what the hell can we do about it but look at what we have and deal with it, and Pennington is the best we have, some people might not be happy about it but thats the cold truth, and the sooner Jets fans understand this and support any QB the better.