he wouldn't be a 1 year rental and for us right now he'd be our number 1 WR. and he's only missed 2 games in his 3 year career and is currently healthy so injuries isn't an issue. he's young enough we can keep him on for a few years and hack needs someone proven to throw to and right now the most proven player we have is anderson an UDFA with 1 year experience only starting like 3-4 games and 600 career yards
He would be a one year rental. He is a free agent after this season and expects a big payday. He missed OTAs and all reports out of Eagles camp are he is not near what he usually is. He has an issue with the knee. He missed 2 games but was questionable how many? 10-12? How many games did Enunwa miss before we lost him for the year ? Matthews has long injury history. He could be our #1 but that doesn't change the fact that he is not a legit # 1 Reciever. Just about any backup QB in the league would be our starter but that doesn't mean we should trade for them. The added production of Matthews in the slot vs Stewart or Hansen is not worth a 3rd round pick.
They are not actively shopping him , there were the usual early off-season ( trade scenarios that should happen) articles that circulated. The most popular was Matthews for Richard Sherman. Then the Eagles wanted to move him for a starting Corner. He is in the final year of his contact so the current thought process from Tim McManus is they want something instead of letting him just walk in free agency. Here's a link to the article Are Jordan Matthews' days with the Eagles numbered? http://es.pn/2udzneV via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app
I think sheldon is worth more IMO plus they wouldn't be able to keep him either after the season. Philly is in cap hell currently. their next offseason will be like ours was this offseason. cuts left and right. I'm thinking ideally a 4th or 5th (maybe a 4th and 6th combined) or a 3rd at most. personally i'd like to keep all top 3 picks but a 4th i'd be ok with it. really depends on how philly values him.
I never said he was a legit WR. and he isn't getting a big payday. i doubt any teams offer him much. even if he refuses to sign here and walks away, what's the chances a 4th round pick we would give up will do any better here? history shows not likely. what he does is make an improvement to what is now the worst WR group in the NFL in a year where we will likely be trying to see if hack can be a real QB. hard to do that when throwing to anderson, peake, and 2 rookies (drafted in the 3rd and 4th rounds) and what happens if anderson goes down? you want peake and a 3rd round rookie as our starters? Our WR unit was still bad with enunwa, without him it's just pitiful. We can't start a season when looking at a young QB when he has nobody to throw to. it's worse then sanchez's rookie year with stuckey and cochery and that season in game 4 we traded for braylon edwards. Mac needs to address this some time soon
I don't know why I am going to try to rationalize this with you. Matthews feels he should be paid as a #1 wr per his agent. He has medical questions. I agree that Hack will not get a fair evaluation this season. I actually said that before Enunwa went down. I don't think Matthews is a major upgrade over the receivers we have. And the addition of Matthews will not change that. I do feel the Coaching staff will have a better idea of where Hacks develop is than the fan base. If a receiver runs a wrong route, we will assume Hacks fault, Morton will say Reciever ran wrong route. I'm not certain Anderson will be the 1. I expect others to step up and surpass him. Plus he could still be suspended. What if we give up that third or 4th round pick and Matthews, with his second knee injury now , plus past back and ankle injury goes down? You were saying a third, or 4th. The chances are just about the same that a 4th round pick would work out as well as Matthews. If we get one year of moderate contribution from the pick it's a wash. To put the value in perspective we gave up a 5th round pick and in return received Brandon Marshall and a 7th round pick . Marshall was a true 1. Not a 3 pretending to be a 1 because we don't have a 1. There will be plenty of vets released and we can add one or more receivers without giving up any draft picks. Throwing away draft picks is the very reason this roster is bare.
The best guy still hanging around out there is Eddie Royal. Would sign him asap Also try to work out a trade for Allen Hurns. Jax drafted Dede Westbrook. They have Marqise Lee and Allen Robinson. Hurns may be the odd man out.
Hurns is not going to be moved by Tampa Bay. Robinson and Lee are both Free agents after this season and he is dealing with a neck injury. What's with everyone wanting to trade picks for injured players. There will be plenty of veterans available once teams cut down the roster. There are Rumors that the Packers may release Cobb. Other vets on the bubble include Bryce Butler from Dallas, Douglas from Tennessee. Sammie Coates from Pittsburgh , Cruz may be released by the Bears, and Danny Amendola may be squeezed out of NE. There will be a lot of veterans available
If we're gonna tank anyway, why bother with a vet especially if McClown is gonna start. No real point in trying to upgrade instead of developing the Wr. Corps.
I'm still kinda bummed about this one.. I really wanted to see this kid ball out this year. His progress has been fun to watch. This puts a dent in his development as well as Hackenbergs development. Very tough loss. I don't think he would've been a game changer as far as if we won or lost games regardless so its not like our chances of a top pick got better.. this sucks
Why are we looking for vets? If that was the case we coulda kept Decker we have plenty of young WR's we will rotate through. I don't think the jets are looking to improve the roster from the outside at any position... I know McCown contradicts that, I don't get the signing still.. but I believe that's our mindset throughout this rebuild.
I'm just responding to the guys here who want to trade draft picks for injured Recievers. I am against giving up draft picks, I tried to explain to them that giving away draft picks is why we have little talent and less depth.
I'm in agreement. I was simply replying that I am against trading draft picks for players, especially one guy with a current knee injury and one with a neck injury.
I'd be shocked if the Packers released Cobb. I'd also be shocked if Amendola is cut by the Patriots. Why would either team make that move? It's not like the Pats are loaded with WRs, and the Packers learned firsthand last season what happens when a WR or two goes down. I wouldn't have any of the other vets you mentioned. I'd rather sign Eddie Royal or the ex-Charger whose name escapes me at the moment, trade a draft pick for someone good, or just stand pat with with we have.
no way the packers release cobb. if they did i'd throw the bank at him. he's their number 2 WR and has great chemistry with rodgers. i doubt the pats get rid of amendola as well. the rest of the names on the list are gross. the ex charger is 34 year old vincent jackson. recently played for the bucs and is way past his prime.
Yes, Vincent Jackson. Thanks. I know he's way past his prime, but unless his hands have gotten arthritic, I think he's always had pretty good hands and would be a reliable target if healthy. I wouldn't want him for the sake of number of wins, but rather to help out Hack and Petty develop and help the team be better able to judge whether they need to draft a QB in 2018.
yeah he's still reliable but i question his ability to create space. Might be good for the red zone and to help groom the young WRs we have. On the plus side i heard ASJ and anderson are looking pretty good in practice. anderson is still struglling but he's a monster deep threat. caught an 80 yard bomb from hack after beating burris. ASJ made some nice catches as well including a TD. ASJ could be a sleeper TE in fantasy.
This is such a shame. I was really feeling like this kid could have taken big strides this year. Now it's unlikely we ever see him in a Jets uniform again. Forever snakebitten..... Part of me feels that the Bills signed Bolden right after this just to make sure the Jets didn't. That team seems to always make moves about us, rather than trying to beat the Patriots or make the playoffs. So sad.
