Enunwa out for the season

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  1. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    You are right. My apologies I meant 2013 and 2014 when Clyde Gates and David Nelson were our best WRs. I will edit to avoid any further confusion. But as bad as the roster is now it is light years better on offense than 2013-2014.
     
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  2. TonyFtLaud

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    No need to apologise. I understand the years were mixed up. Many posters are very high on this years WRs. But I didn't think you were actually thinking the years you posted. I think 2012 and 13 are the years you want. Decker was here in 14 .
     
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    Decker and Kerley were injured most of the year in 2014. But yes 2014 was slightly better than 2013 when Clyde Gates would have been our number 1 absent being injured.
     
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    You are right. My memory is not very good but I think Decker injured his hamstring in camp and played injured most of the year.
     
  5. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Did google crash?
     
  6. JethroTull

    JethroTull 2018 Least Knowledgeable Poster

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    The Sparano offense was worse because the skill positions were loaded with scrap heap guys. At least this year we have young players who might be good.
     
  7. JetLifeLo

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    How exactly are you supposed to evaluate a young QB with a below average/ bad o-line and no WR's ?

    We've been down this road before.
     
  8. FJF

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    At one point those scrap heap guys were young players who might be good
     
  9. Noam

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    Certainly we have more potential and hope at WR with all young players than the 2013 and 2014 teams. We might have more growing pains. The OL might be equally as bad as 2013. I am really concerned about our ability to protect the QB. I really do like Morton but he has little to work with. If you believe the hype about ASJ he might be our only reliable offensive weapon. I am scared we might set a record for sacks.
     
  10. grkmanga31

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    I think his asking price just took a huge hit anyways. Jets should be able to sign him for much less than they would have had he had a great season with how the team is constructed currently.
     
  11. Cman69

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    Didnt learn a f'n thing the last time either.
     
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  12. NYJetsO12

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    Forget this Season...blessing in disguise

    Full tank is on and we roll the dice with Rosen or Sam come the draft

    Only option is to admit that and have best player Quincy ready for 2018
     
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  13. NYJetsO12

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    Hack had great a very good Penn State team and all my friends at PSU knew he blew as a QB Plus he's had a year of NFL under belt and his throws are still way off

    Relax ...it doesn't matter

    Jmho
     
  14. GasedAndConfused

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    matthews is young (25) and a proven commodity who can help this season and at least 4-5 more if we resign him. and is likely better then any WR we would land in the 3rd or 4th round and even at that they likely wouldn't help for a few years. we have a young QB who is developing and needs people to throw to now and build a rapport with. Plus lets not forget devin smith, Stephen hill etc. and if we don't trade for a WR it's likely we'll draft a safety or LBer at this point with the pick cause our GM is fixated on defense. i wouldn't give up higher then 3rd personally and that still leaves us with a 1st (QB) and 2nd (WR or o-line) and we improve our WR group instantly. Matthews would come in as our number 1 WR instantly which shows the sad state of things for us with enunwa out. remember when sanchez started and our top 3 WRs were cochery, stuckey, and clowney? so we traded for braylon mid season
     
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    You got some solid points. I really liked Jordan Matthews, depending on the pick I would be interested. I would be shocked if they actually trade him. Isn't he their only reliable receiver?
     
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    I'm just numb at this point, it seems nothing can go right for the Jets. Despite different coaches, GMs, etc. throughout the years, the same shit happens. We are basically just Charlie Brown at this point.
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    I would be stunned if Philly was willing to trade him. Why should they? They have a young QB too. I would be even more stunned if they accepted anything less than a first round pick. In his 3-year career he has averaged 75 receptions per season, 11.9 ypc 6.3 TDs, and just under 900 yards per season.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

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    Rumor is the eagles don't really love him. His stats are a bit inflated by volume TBH. he's a decent WR. he's not a number 1 but could grow into a number 2 with more hard work. he's really at beast a good #3 guy currently (again showing our sad state at WR that he would be our #1) thats why they signed jeffrey and smith. jeffrey is a top 10 WR when healthy but has a 1 year prove you can stay healthy deal. smith is a solid vet WR and proven number 2. he wasted years in a shitty SF offense that hurt his stats but with a good QB he's a 1k yard WR. that sets them at 1 and 2. they don't love agholar either but he is a 1st round pick who would cost them money to move and they are cap strapped. Jeffrey is on a 1 year deal, smith has 1 year left (and an option for 2018) and matthews is on his final year. they can't keep all 3 for 2018 and it's clear they prefer jeffrey and smith so are open to moving matthews for the cap relief plus knowing they won't keep him in 2018. Really depends what you call reliable. I'd say smith is for sure. Jeffrey isn't but cause injury not talent. when he's healthy he's a monster.
     
  19. GasedAndConfused

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    Rumor is the eagles don't really love him. His stats are a bit inflated by volume TBH. he's a decent WR. he's not a number 1 but could grow into a number 2 with more hard work. he's really at beast a good #3 guy currently (again showing our sad state at WR that he would be our #1) thats why they signed jeffrey and smith. jeffrey is a top 10 WR when healthy but has a 1 year prove you can stay healthy deal. smith is a solid vet WR and proven number 2. he wasted years in a shitty SF offense that hurt his stats but with a good QB he's a 1k yard WR. that sets them at 1 and 2. they don't love agholar either but he is a 1st round pick who would cost them money to move and they are cap strapped. Jeffrey is on a 1 year deal, smith has 1 year left (and an option for 2018) and matthews is on his final year. they can't keep all 3 for 2018 and it's clear they prefer jeffrey and smith so are open to moving matthews for the cap relief plus knowing they won't keep him in 2018
     
  20. TonyFtLaud

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    I like Matthews but we have plenty of young guys who can play the slot. He is currently dealing with a knee injury , had issues with the knee in 2014, back issues in 2015 and 16, and ankle problems the last 5 weeks of 16.
    Why give up a third round pick for an often injured one year rental . We need a true #1 Reciever. Not another 3 , possible 2. His production vs volume shows he is not a legit 1 .
     
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