Enough of Fields

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  1. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I mean this sincerely ... we should run the wishbone (or some version of it). We don't have a QB worth a damn. Right now we have no receivers. We could have first, second and third choice of all of the best running QBs that have come out of college for the last five years. It won't matter (at all) if they get hurt; just replace them. They would cost nothing; they'd all play for league minimum. And at the very least, it would be interesting for half a season.

    Run the wishbone.
     
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  2. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I said that a few weeks ago. Student Body left/right, run out of the "I" and gin up ole' Wishbone plays. Hell, there is a 20 year period where the NFL ran 6 x more than pass. Crack those ole' ass books. Something has to work! :rolleyes:
     
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  3. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    Well at least we got Taylor in there to actually sling the ball. He didn't sling it very well though. People harshing on AG have overlooked how skilled he is at running out the clock at the end of halfs.
     
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  4. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Same thing as Woody watching the Broncos set records with Gase as OC not realizing that Gase had nothing to do with it. The NFL is a competitive league, and when your owner's IQ is a good standard deviation below average, this is what happens.
     
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  5. remedy29

    remedy29 New Member

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    The problem is not jus the owner, its the entire stench of the Jets franchise. Nobody wants to coach the Jets. The Jets choose from the bottom of the barrel coaching candidates. At best, the Jets can get lucky and get a good coordinator to coach half the team. With Aaron Glenn, the Jets may not even have that going for them, they just have bad coaches.
     
  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    6/12 for 46 yards. 3 sacks - 21 yards

    Carolina is near the bottom of the leagues in sacks.
     
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  7. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

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    In his last six quarters of play, Fields has thrown for 91 yards with 76 yards lost to sacks; leaving the New York Jets with a grand total of 15 net yards passing in a game and a half.

    That's seriously impressive.
     
  8. CaptainCap

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    Fields is not talented enough to be an NFL QB. But he's big and is a talented runner. I would experiment with him at wide receiver. QB conversions in the past have worked Julian Edelman, Freddie Solomon and Marlin Briscoe all found success in the conversion. What do we have to lose. At 0-7 I'll try anything.
     
  9. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I disagree that no one wants to coach the Jets. Vrabel came for an interview - and if the opening were not there in NE he could have ended up here. He doesn't look like a guy who wants to waste his time. This is still one of 32, and frankly the roster is not barren. Plus if we can tank into #1 overall pick, this makes the job VERY attractive. You come here and you have OL, you have #1 pick to draft a QB of your choice, you have #1 WR, #1 TE, and a lot of talent on the defense as well. This is NOT a bad spot at all for a coach. I mean yes, you have to deliver the results that are better than 0-7 start with a roster like that, but I think that's the expectation no matter where you go.

    The problem is Woody is too incompetent, and frankly it sure looks like 33d team didn't help. Literally 0 good offensive coaches interviewed. But what can we do at this point? Just hope that Woody gets rid of a failed regime and try again to see if he stumbles into a good coach by pure accident.
     
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  10. FloridaMan

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    Was Fields this bad when he played with the Bears and Steelers?
     
  11. FloridaMan

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    2026 draft: 1st rnd: QB, 2nd rnd: WR
     
  12. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but they had way better rosters and at least in Pitt, a WAY better staff. Everything Fields is doing now is what he’s been doing his whole career. It looks way worse when there’s no one to bail him out and save him from himself either on the field or on the sidelines.
     
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  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think Vrabel was coming here in any way, shape, or form. He only took the interview because he knew the New England job was open and leveraged us unfortunately.

    I don’t think it’s impossible for the Jets to find a good coach though. The Texans were a nightmare-ish spot and could only attract David Culley. But they learned quickly he wasn’t the guy.

    The Jets have an appealing situation outside of the organizational bullshit if they can hold on to the number one pick. Two tackles that look to be good young players, a good receiver, what looks to be a good young tightend. Those are pieces if you have a top pick whether they want to take a QB or deal it for assets.
     
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  14. Borat

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    He interviewed before NE job opened though since we got early start, so at that point of time there was still a shot at him I think. The offseason before no one hired him at all. If Woody was smart enough to fire Bob a year before or if Kraft gave Mayo another year, I absolutely think we could have had Vrabel. But yeah, I agree, once NE opened, he wasn't coming here.

    And what Kraft did was absolutely correct. Mayo only won 4 games, and it is a firable offense. And Mayo, like Glenn, also was a top pick, played for NE, worked under legendary coach. Is anyone upset in NE now Kraft got rid of him after 4-13 year one record? Kraft made a mistake a year before, and corrected the following year.

    Woody needs to do the same with Glenn if we finish with the same or worse record. There is really nothing different. If anything NE roster was even worse last year than ours is now. But there is nothing wrong with firing an absolute loser of a coach right away and giving someone else a chance. Kraft just proved it in our own division.
     
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    Not to defend Woody too much, but he's far from the only owner in the league who has made this mistake. In our frustration, we assume that Woody is the 1 bad owner in a league of 31 other good ones, but the fact is that the ownership of the Browns, Giants, Jaguars, Panthers, and Raiders has been just as bad. But that's neither here nor there; given the turnover in head coaches, finding a good one is more miss than hit, even with better run teams. It's just really hard to tell who is going to be able to manage an entire team.
     
  16. Jets79

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    I agree but it NEEDS to be an offensive coach…it for sure fucking absolutely CAN’T be another defensive guy …
     
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    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes it is, yes, but the fact that Woody has fucked up so consistently points to more than just the averages. This is Woody being a fucking idiotic imbecile who knows ZERO about leadership or football or how to build an organization. Not surprising as he’s been an entitled trust fund prick and never built anything himself.
     
  18. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Devil's advocate... Mike Vrabel is a defensive coach. I understand the optics but I promise you if we had Drake Maye and an experienced OC like McDaniels (as much of a chode as he is) we would not be 0-7.
     
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    Oh for sure…look I think our roster is bad, but I for sure refuse to believe it is 0-7 bad…I think a better coach has us winning maybe 2-3 of these games.

    And yes, the ONLY way I’d consider a defensive coach is one who’s had success. Tennessee never should have fired Vrabel in the first place…he has always been a good coach. I don’t know that he has us leading the division because we just don’t have a QB, but if he were our coach there is no way we are 0-7.

    All that being said, I want Glenn gone (never wanted him in the first place) and I want an offensive guy in here…for fuck’s sake, go eat shit and get McCarthy here with a high pick and let him develop a QB. He would be the best coach we’ve had here since who, Rex? Parcells?

    Look at what Ben Johnson is doing with Chicago compared to what Glenn is doing here…dumbass Woody was too stupid to see that Glenn’s defenses there were never great. Saleh wasn’t a good HC, but at least his defenses were top 5 at SF, and he instantly got us a top 10 D here as well….Woody is just totally clueless.
     
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  20. Borat

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    Vrabel may be more of an exception to the rule. Excellent coaching record even without a top QB, COY, AFC Finals, etc... Never went to SB, but this was probably as close to Parcells/Belichick hire as you can get. Still, I agree with @Jets79, realistically speaking we need to get a successful offensive coach, who can develop a QB. It's a no brainer really.

    Btw, I don't think we are 0-7 with Bob or maybe even Gase. Glenn looks to be Kotite level at this point.
     
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