Engstrand in on the tank!!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Cman69, Dec 21, 2025 at 2:35 PM.

  1. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we did not watch the same season. Coen for example confused the shit out of our defense with various play action schemes and motions. We were biting hard and they had guys open all day. All of the sudden 2024 team MVP Sherwood looks like PS scrub all year, All Pro Quincy is benched. Of course players are the ones who have to execute and a lot of it is on them, but a lot is on coaches too. It's a combination of both. The players you mentioned are find, but they don't strike the fear in opponents hearts any longer. There is no doubt in my mind this team would look a lot better under Vrabel or any other competent coach.
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    A guy like Vrabel...he would have those underperforming players doing burpees until the puke was running out their noses if they performed, on a consistent basis, the way they perform under Glenn.
     
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    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand how people still defend Glenn at this point. I get it there was a small stretch where we won a couple of meaningless games with STs to ruin our draft position (the usual Jets shit HC special), you could defend the guy a little bit I guess, but not now. Some people just can't admit they are wrong. I am afraid Woody is one of these people too...
     
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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    This is the NFL, not a Texas junior college.
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. And your rationale is EXACTLY WHY this team blows monkey ass.

    I don't give a FUCK if a player is making $200 million, if they are rolling their asses out there and putting on the kinds of display I see our players doing, on a week by week basis, you'll do the fucking burpees or you won't be on the god damn team. What, because they are pro's you don't discipline them? Hell man, if we had the KIND of players that took care of business you wouldn't have fans making comments like doing burpees. Get what I'm saying?
     
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    BrowningNagle 1992 Rookie of the Year

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    Strange response. I asked someone else about Vrabel and you responded with a response about Coen.
     
  7. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    I misunderstood, I thought you meant our Xs and Os were fine, as it is basically players that make the biggest difference not coaches. But even Vrabel though, you don't go from #22 defense to #6 without great coaching. Or from #30 to #7 on offense. The players you listed are fine, but do not account for 10 extra wins.

    We have to give credit where credit is due, and Vrabel deserves a lot of credit for the turnaround they had. If Woody fired Bob a year earlier, it could have been us reaping benefits. But the dumbass is always too late.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think Cook starting was the team admitting they were tanking the season in the name of "let's see what all these young guys can do." Not that the team they assembled in the offseason was designed to be all that competitive to begin with. A bust Cinderella candidate and an injury prone career backup at QB. Diamond in the rough type FA replacement players that may have been overpaid by a bunch. I did like the DTs but even they were late in the game.

    I think it's even possible that the Jets were hoping that Sauce and Quinnen could boost their trade value during the season or they would have traded them before the season started. Aside from AG's bluster, I didn't see very many signs that the Jets were going to try to win enough games to compete in 2025.
     
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    It's not bullshit at all - you are living in the dark ages. Your ego is getting in the way of your understanding the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players' union. You also are clueless about how adults expect to be treated by their employers in general, whether they make $200 million a year or twenty dollars an hour. The first coach who did what you propose would be out of work before the first punitive exercise even started. Talk about "losing the locker room" - sheesh!
     
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    jetophile Bruce Coslet's Daughter

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  11. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    It's comical people think the Jets are tanking!! Do you really believe this team as bad as they've been for decades, is choosing to be terrible, they just fucking suck
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Do you REALLY think they're trying to win games or just see who's on the roster in '26?
     
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    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    How old is Woody? 90? 95? Looks like he spent a month in a cryogenics chamber that didn't work.
     
  14. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Cryogenics is for peasants. Woody sleeps in large membrane filled with the tears of Jets fans. He's actually 200.
     
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