And he doesn't get booed those years. I'm pretty sure if he was at MSG a year ago he would have been cheered when the camera went on him. Eli Manning used to get booed every game and people wanted Coughlin's head even last year, now they get cheered. That's just NY.
Well forget the developing thing for a minute, and let me just say that Philbin put those quarterback in a good position to succeed. I guess you could say he has a quarterback friendly offense. You can argue on whether that is true or not, but if Flynn really isn't a good quarterback, then there must be something to that offense that helped those guys succeed. And I know it was only 2 games for Flynn, but still, 2 really good games. My main point is, I feel much more comfortable drafting a QB with Philbin and Sherman, than I would with Sparano and Henning or Daboll. Speaking of Daboll, have the Jets looked into bringing him in for some sort of passing coordinator. He actually did a pretty good job with us. We can argue about the Henne thing all day, but in my opinion he made him look alot better. I dont know if he would be interested in coming in just for the passing gig, but it would be worth a shot seeing as that he has coached with Sparano already and had some moderate success.
who cares what people think? the jets had a bad year but have proven they can win w/ this regime. As a Jet fan for 30+ years now this is the best time to be a Jet fan, last year sucked but it was ONE season. The only embarrassment I see is the way jet fans are jumping ship. Those fans deserve Joe walton or Rich Kotite running the show. Sanchez has been there 2 of 3 years(67%), Romo has been there 3 times in 6 years(as a starter, 50%). Which is better? romo has one playoff win, at home in the WC rd. Sanchez has 4 on the road and has helped his team get to 2 title games. I'd much prefer to have sanchez over Romo but we live in a fantasy football world so the average fan would rather have Romo. Top me the jury is out on philbin, he was an OC and on staff w/ Favre and Rodgers. Let's see what hedoes now developing tannehill and trying to win w/ Matt Moore. Daboll once worked here, I'm not sure where he is now.
Couple of points. First of all, how well the Jets will put together their O this coming season is speculation at this point, and I think we can all agree on that. I have doubts, but do not pretend to have certainty. I don't think anyone has that. As for the first three years of Sanchez's career, perhaps I did not make my point well enough. What I meant was that my perception of how Smith played along with Sanchez was that the CS saw Smith as a way to change up an O that otherwise, as they found shortly into Sanchez's first year, had to be so plain vanilla for Sanchez to understand and work in it. By the end of the second year, Smith was an FA. The Jets at that point, meaning just last year, had a choice. They could let Smith go or keep him. But even if they let him go there was a related choice whether to replace Smith with someone like him, or have someone else on the roster serve a similar function. As the year progressed we saw the Jets use a couple of other players in that role, later on that being a handful of plays that Kerley ran. But I also think it fair to say that the Jets entered last season, having let Smith go in FA, with no real attempt to replace him, or groom someone else to have a similar and similarly important role as him. This meant to me that last off season the Jets were prepared to enter last year, Sanchez's third year, with even a smaller reliance on the option/wildcat play as they had with Smith on the team. That being the case, they were expecting Sanchez to succeed without even the percentage of those types of plays Smith ran in the first two years. Now, despite what some Sanchez Fans may say, Sanchez did not by any reasonable measure "succeed" last year. The real question is why not? Was it mostly Schotty's fault? Wayne Hunter's? Mangold's injury? Edwards gone and Burress underwhelming? LT a year older? Ferguson having an off year? Green not stepping up? I can recall some combination of all of the foregoing being offered as explanations. I personally felt it was mostly because Sanchez showed no development, perhaps even regressed, in reading defenses. I also conceded that most of the foregoing factors were involved to some extent, at least so far as they meant Sanchez had something less than optimal conditions to work with. Going into this off season, Schotty left, and was replaced by Sparano. Hunter will be back, which imo is not a good thing. Mangold is healthy. Burress is gone, but the Jets still have an opportunity to upgrade #2 wideout over Burress. Ferguson will hopefully bounce back, and it does remain to be seen what if anything remains to be done with the RB roster. Brunell also was seen as likely to not be back, and in fact has since retired, and the Jets initially were going with a fairly standard approach to backup Qb in Stanton. Now, up until the time that the Jets started making noise about getting Tebow, and did, I don't recall there being much talk about a big effort to use the option or wildcat as part of the O. Yes, Sparano notably used it in Miami, but he also coached himself out of a job down there. Kerley may well have been used now and then in the coming season, we could expect, but it was not I think it is fair to say anyone's plan that the option/wildcat would be used to "help Sanchez" and become a major part of the O. In short, I do not think that helping Sanchez with the option is anything more than a rationalization after the fact, wheeled out to help justify the Tebow trade, which was really nothing more than a circus like marketing ploy on Woody's part to take attention away from the Giants. There is no reason whatsoever to think we will have any better idea about whether Sanchez will be a viable starting Qb for the Jets going forward by taking any significant amount of plays away from him and giving them to Tebow. In addition and related to that, I totally disagree with your assessment that any significant number of other NFL teams would want to have Tebow on their roster, to be used as the Jets seem they are intending to use him. Nobody else tried to get him. A former first round pick was obtained for a fourth, more or less, and some cash. The only other team mentioned was Jville, and their football people were on record against the deal. In other words the difference for the Jets in year four of Sanchez's being Qb is that use of the option is not some means of allowing a newbie Qb to get comfortable by giving him a few plays off now and then. He's no longer a newbie. There's a reason no other NFL teams use that type of O for a significant number of plays. Use of this coming year to assess whether Sanchez can be a bona fide and acceptable NFL starting Qb will not be helped by using Tebow in any significant role. That is my core problem with the situation. Related to that is I think all those who claim to more or less be on board with the FO on this are also probably over minimizing the disruptive effect Tebots will have, the likely locker room divisions that will occur, and the difficulty for the entire O to learn a not only new O but one that will be inherently more complex because of inclusion of a number of plays for Tebow. As for what else the FO should have been doing this off season, that is a whole other subject, but letting Hunter's contract go guaranteed is only one of my problems. There are others, but this post is long enough already.
Is it such an impossible thing to do to find a WR or RB that played some highschool QB and can throw a few options passes? You're getting close to the same product as Tebow while throwing far less pressure on Sanchez.
