Dustin Keller vs Zach Miller

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  1. Raiderjoe

    Raiderjoe Banned

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    Keller is 15 monthsa older than zach miller. Again were not talking rookie numbers were talking last year. What happens when Miller numbers blow out Dustin Keller again this year. Whats your arguement going to be. Miller going on his third year while Keller going on his second.

    Lets look at the real facts. IN zach miller rookie year he had four diffrent Qbs starting(J MCCown, D culpepper, A walter and J russell, while Dustin Keller had a hall of famer Brett Favre.

    Raiders were predominatly a running team in 2007 508 rushing attempts with only 451 passing attempts and 260 completions versus 422 rushing attempts 529 pass attempts with 347 completions for the Jets.

    Jets were a passing team that was sucesful running the ball out of the spread offense.

    Jets had 78 more pasing attempts than Raiders. 529 - 451= 78 Jets completed 347 in comparison to 260 . 347- 260 = 87 more receptions.

    87 more recptions and D keller was 11 pewrcent of Jetrs offense. 87 times .11 = 9 .57 more recptions D keller should have had. 10 more receptions. He didn't Now add 10 times more recptions * zach miller average 10 yards per reception= 100 more yards. That means Zach Miller numbers would be better.

    Jets are a short passing attack and reason they are always going to have more receptions. Raiders alot of times on those attempts were just throwing away.

    You look at the numbers and it obvious why D Keller numbers were slightly better than millers rookie year. u8nfortunatly thats not how football players arev judged. It what they did this year . For all we know that was D Keller careeer year. zach miller has done it more than a year.

    Again until D Keller puts up better than Zach miller, your arguement is a joke. Hes not the better player or better playmaker.
     
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  2. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    You can't forget all the other variable..football is still a team sport. Definitely Keller.
     
  3. SyracuseJet

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    It's like teaching algebra to a 3 year old with this guy. I see why people have stopped wasting their time.

    Your numbers are irrelevant. When we compare QBs are we going to say, "well, QB A only threw 300 passes and QB B threw 500, if you add them up, QB could have had 10 more yards and wouldn't have thrown as many picks because the defenses in his last three games were weak"? No. Stop spinning your wheels. You have a decent player to add to the list of under achievers.
     
  4. Raiderjoe

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    Again Look at the numbers last year. Thats the only thing we can go by. Thats the only time they both played in the league. Sorry keller you couldn't hold Zach Miller jock strap. maybe someday you will grow into, The reciever, The blocker and the playmaker that zach Miller is. Wouldn't count on it. But you have to shoot for something right. Nobody in football believes Keller the better TE, only delusional Jet fans.


    Btw reason why you can only concern yourself with current year. Lito Sheppard was once a probowl Cb, he far removed from being that player. Thats how silly is looking at past years.
     
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  5. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    Hey, Jeaux. Your head to head comparison let me see that Kevin Boss has more touchdowns than Zach Miller. Defend yourself, I could use a laugh.
     
  6. Raiderjoe

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    Zach Miller stats co0mpare to Boss should make you cry as a Giant fan.
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead...Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player..


    TD is a bogus stat. Just like a FB who a short yardage specialist might have a nlarge amount of Tds. Wow that Fb was able to take it 1 yard for TD.

    Only Reason zach miller didn't have alot of Tds last year. he was their only weapon. Closer you get to the endzone. Defenders are going to make sure someone else beats them. Giants had alot of other options. Defenses were worried more about Plaxico Burress.

    Just watch how many Tds zach miller has in 2009. Raidsers have alot of weapons now.
     
  7. plinko

    plinko Absolute Ruler

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    Sorta like that W/L stat? It's bogus. Everyone knows that 40 times are more important.
     
  8. NJrocket24

    NJrocket24 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, its common knowledge that 6 under 5-win seasons in a row is a sign that you clearly have the best players and your team will be a contender.

    Don't you know anything about football?
     
  9. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    HAHAHA!! You certainly don't disappoint! But what the hell, let's do this.

    Your short yardage FB allusion touches upon something very important. The Giants running game was second to none last year. This being the case, why would they throw to score points whilst in the redzone? Kevin Boss, in his first season as a starter, put more points on the board than Miller. 30, to be exact. Man, no wonder the Ra%ders lose games. They can get tons of yards with their amazing 40 times, but not score points!
     
  10. Raiderjoe

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    All Im going to say you believe Boss will have more Tds than Zach miller in 2009. Put your money up. Loser donates that amount to this site. Again only reason why Zach Miller Td numbers weren't up because he was the only weapon. Thats not the case. Raiders have alot of playmakers on offense . The ball in your court Friendly Giant fan.
     
  11. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I'll put any amount of money up on that. But what assurance do I have that you'll make good on any bet we make involving money? You have time to bullshit everyone here, so I am assuming employment isn't a driving force in your life.
    Let's start a thread where people state what should be done for this bet.

    If you've got the Zach-Miller-saliva-lathered-balls for it, that is.

    Oh, and the Raiders don't have weapons on offense. They have speed. HUGE difference. Start understanding football sometime and you'll see what I mean.
     
  12. Raiderjoe

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    Listen I lost a couple bets on thisa site. I paid up and thats why i only want it to be donated to this site. So someone can confirm if the bet was fulfilled. I been a member since 2003. You think if I didn't pay up someone, would be using it in your signature. Imk not looking to break your bank friendly Giant fan. thirty bucks with loser donating to this site. You think I don't pay up to this site(after everyone witness it, I won't get permabanned. )


    Raiders not only have speed, size but actually have game breaking playmakers. This is not last year Raider offense.
     
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  13. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    Until I can confirm with Petrozza that you've been good on your bets, I'm not taking that.

    And for the record, I still like the idea of a bet stipulated by other TGG members more. Perhaps there could be a different bet about the Giants-Raiders game week 5.
     
  14. Raiderjoe

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    Whatever. Sounds like someone getting cold feet. I guess your not as confidant in Boss as you make it appear . Just say it, and stop playing these BS games.
     
  15. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    When did I call off the cash bet? We can do two, if you can count that high. And I hope you can, otherwise you'll probably end up emptying your bank account to pay out that $30.

    ...actually you may have done that anyway.
     
  16. Raiderjoe

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    Come up with a good second bet. How about loser has to go to the meadowlands at game of fan on this site choice. And do there best Joe Namath impersonation of hitting on susie Kolber. (with unexpected female(IF you can call so9me of them beasts- disguise as woman.
     
  17. NDmick

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    you never follow through on these juvenile bets, and you lose everytime.
     
  18. Harpua

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    Real Fact, Dustin Keller had More touch downs and 100 yards games last year Than Zach Miller. That is an undisputable real fact. Deal with it.
     
  19. Raiderjoe

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    You been on this board since 2007 .(rookie) I lost bets on this board and paid up. Again you don't know what your talking about. Ask around. This board started alot longer than 2007.
     
  20. Raiderjoe

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    Dustin Keller stats fall well short of zach Miller and its not even funny. Zach Miller big play potential- 16 times he had a gain of twenty plaus yards. Keller 7 What a joke I thought with his speed he could get down the field faster. For the millonth time wait till Keller has better numbers than zach Miller before you waste my time with this garbage. Mosat Likely Zach miller will be the Afc probowl Te.
     

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