Well Don, we have known where you stood on this issue for years. Amazing how many here are so willing to give Sanchez a pass on his lack of experience and cannot stop bring it up when it comes to Clemens. If the Jets really thought that Clemens was that unable to do the job they sure did not show it when they traded Ratliff instead of him. Sanchez is a Jet now and I have to hope that this kid is lights out, as I said in a earlier post, it's hard not to like the kid , but a good interview does not a QB make..... So at this point I would grade this draft a solid (B-) with the chance of it raising to an (A+) if Sanchez pans out and is what all these "experts" project him to be, and not just a product of his hype machine.. For there is no doubt he has the best people on his payroll when it comes to keeping his name and pushing up his Rep in the last two weeks I would hope that the other two picks were the best we could get at where we we picking. Trading away 3 picks to move up in the third to P/U Greene worried me a bit, but Tanny & company have been very good at ID talent in the lower rounds. One thing for certain is that the other kids we have be developing over the last two years are going to be required to step up this year. This is espeically true for both of the young O & D-linemen..
If you like Sanchez, you grade this draft highly. If you don't, and I don't, it is a terrible draft. More than anything, this team needed depth, and by trading away so many picks, we are VERY thin at a lot of spots, and now have a hole at DE to boot. If ANY O lineman goes down, we're screwed. Especially Mangold or Brick. We could have done better than Shon Green if we kept that second round pick too. Leinart was better than Sanchez at USC, right? Leinart rides the bench in AZ. The guy only started 16 games in colleg. He is a risky pick. Annointing him as the "QB of the future" is wishful thinking. I would not be surprised to see Clemens beat him out and start game 1. Sanchez=selling PSL's. I didn't hate the trade up for S Green. But I really have reservations about Sanchez, and out DE position and our depth. C
B- I wasn't innitially happy about the Sanchez pick, but after hearing him speak, watching countless highlights of him not only playing well but missing receivers and having some ups and downs I'm happy with the pick. Potential franchise QB, and we made the effort to get him, put your trust in the coaches. I like his work ethic, his accuracy, his mobility and his vision, all the makings of a good QB. He looked delighted to be selected to us, and has said that this is where he wants to be, lets hope he can repay the faith in trading up with some big performances, he has a great O-line and some fantastic backs, so he has everything in place (nearly, WR may be a problem) to have a good season. Shonn Greene is one of my favourite players and i was delighted to move up and get him, the guy is one of the toughest SOB's in football, he can be impossible to bring down, and he hits the hole hard. Looks for the end zone and just ploughs on through until he gets there. Doesn't have the greatest speed, but we have Leon for that, we now have a great running back corps, looking forward to seeing all 3 on the field. The only reason this is a B- and not more, is because we still have issues, if we get a few guys in for depth purposes, and maybe bring in Plax (Say what you want about him, he is a top receiver in this league) then I'm bumping it up to a A. I need to see the post draft blue plan before hailing this team as Superbowl contenders just jet. However it was a good start.
I give this draft a B. The FO knew what they wanted, and they got it. I like the Sanchez pick, I love the Greene pick, and Slauser is a nice late pick. I would have liked more picks to take care of depth. However, I think UDFA signings might find a player or two. The FO might also grab a player or two from free agency.
I don't understand the Sanchez love. As a previous poster pointed out, he couldn't beat out Lienart for the starting job, and Matt rides the pine in AZ (and looks like he will never start in this league). How can a guy that couldn't beat him out amazingly become a world beater? Com'on folks, this a Woody PSL move, trying to get an overhyped pretty boy to sell seats. In 2 years, when Sanchez is cut or traded, the pick is added to the youtube video of shame. Guaranteed.
It wasnt Leinheart. It was John David Booty that he lost the compitition to two years in a row. Still doesnt mean anything, He clearly has the goods and the passion to play in the Big City.
And another one bites the dust....you really couldn't tell that was sarcasm? Really? I said that as a running team we should have 28 wide receivers, that didn't tip you off? Or just the overall absurdity of the post? Jesus Christ
Ace, I thought you had heard of Schotty's new Overtilt formation where 28 WR's go left while the QB throws it from the stands dressed as a little seen Neil O'Donnell fan. The obvious penalty flag would not be thrown for the sheer "wtf" factor, and will be addressed next year by the NFL's competition comittee.
Yeah I'm a darksider, but I gave 'em an A. The draft is a gamble, so why not go all-in once in a while? Year 1 of Rex' tenure, so he automatically has a "get out of jail free" card, so why not? If these two guys they traded up for turn out to be solid starters, then sweet deal. If not....so be it. A stout D and a big F'in question mark on O. What else can ya do? You have 3 QBs who haven't shown anything, and a QB that went in and impressed a whole bunch of people with his playbook knowledge, arm and attitude. Our RB is crying about money, and will probably be traded, so hey, grab a back. Slauson is a big boy that can provide some depth, hopefully. I'm not concerned about the DE position. I leave that in Rex' hands. WR will need to be addressed. All-in-all not terrible.
So as a freshman he couldn't beat out the guy that won the Heisman trophy and national championship. He must suck
B I think we overpaid to get Greene (would he really not have still been there when we picked?) and would've been better off taking Gilbert if we did have to trade up in the thrid round.
B+ Love the pick ups. It would be an A had we had just one 4th round pick, lol. But really. We need to get threw an entire draft or two to build depth. No more trading down please.
As someone who likes Clemens alot, he simple isn't as well schooled coming out as Sanchez. While he has the arm, the release and the intelligence, his footwork sucks and we don't know if he has the vision which is not the same thing as intelligence. Sanchez clearly has better fundemental technique for running a pro O and has run a pro set more than Clemens to this point. He also apparently has great vision and is very quick in his set up. These are the qualities that often seperate good and great. You assume Mangini wanted Clemens instead of Ratliff. Besides the fact that Clemens is likely to start for us this year while Sanchez gets the feel of the pro game, it may well be that with two QB's on the roster that Mangini may feel are as good or better than Clemens now that Ratliff was the guy he wanted to sit and develop? I think you make an assumption that Mangini wanted Clemens it may well be that he didn't want Clemens and wanted Ratliff? If the pick was a PSL move alone and not based on a geniune feeling that Sanchez can be a top NFL QB than the franchise isn't going anywhere anyway. Sanchez might well have been the consensus No. 1 or No. 2 pick next year, considering this was a weak draft for depth and we gave up essential 1 pick and alot of second tier players, this looks like a very good value move to me as well as filling a hole and getting the opportunity for a franchise QB which will allow us to use future drafts for depth much like the Pats have done since they got Brady. If Clemen shows he is a starting caliber NFL QB which he might, we still own the rights to him and I'm sure will get good value for either him or Sanchez. I don't see any real downside to this move. We gave up 2 picks for Greene and I don't like doing that but on the other hand if we unload Jones for a player or a pick next year we probably didn't lose much in making this move and it appears that they love Greene and had him pegged as a solid 2nd round pick.
Yes, I agree. I went with A-, because I think we gave just hair too much on the high side for Sanchez, but the FO and our scouts saw something that made their jaws obviously drop; I have to rely and support thier decision because they all should have seen enough by now to know good from no good at this point. Greene was a great pick up. He has a lot of potential. I was worried about the Sanchez pick before the draft, but after the Jets pulled the trigger I support their decision. I do not expect miracles the first year, though. We'll see.
My point is that the guy that won the Heisman and the championship is a bench warmer. And how this guy is being designated a "franchise" QB is beyond me. I don't see how he is less of a gamble then Clemens or Ratliff, and he will cost a hell of a lot more money. We could have used the extra picks to try and fill need. Since it seems to make no logical sense, the only answer is that its to try and sell seats. Either that, or the front office has lost it.
There are great College QB's that don't have NFL Skills and there are very good college QB's who do have NFL skills. Sanchez was a great college QB last year with great NFL skills. Not beating out another great college QB with less NFL skills doesn't change the fact that he is a great NFL prospect while Booty was not.
We traded up to get a guy who could not beat out Booty with an arm a heartbeat better than Chad's. We'll be right back in the same place again in 2012 looking for the face of our Franchise! Then for sh**s and giggles we trade up to get a Rb that would have fell to us anyway and give up picks that would have prob got us to the bottom of the 1st top of the second to get a De or Wr. The grade is F from me. Hopefully Im wrong about Sanchez.
