Draft Order: where the jets will land?

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  1. Mario

    Mario Well-Known Member

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    Matt Barkley anyone? He waited an extra year and it costs millions.

    Darnold will still go top 10.
     
  2. Mario

    Mario Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that is an option. They'd have to sign the one year deal at $34.5M, which he'd wisely sign the moment it was offered. I'm not sure what teams would be willing to give up at that point.

    I think they either sign him long term, or just let him walk.

    He is my first choice this offseason. I'd also be ok with taking an LT or Saquon at #6, and then offer both 2nds to move back into the first to get Jackson in the 20s.
     
  3. Footballgod214

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    I've said before, MacCagnan should work all his magic to land a top FQB the he believes in. No 2nd/3rd/4th projecst. a legitimate game one starter to start saving our ass ASAP...IFF he can pull it off.

    Macc has Wilkerson as trade bait as well. Don't laugh, some teams still see Wilk as a stud but just on the wrong team. If a trade is imminent, then offering Wilk could just be enough. Macc passed on a 3rd round trade for Wilk (Cowboys) but I think he now wishes he had made that trade and kept Harrison and Richardson too, along with Williams coming in.

    Anyway, I think Mac has the stones and ammo to move up 2-4 lots if he thinks there's a FQB sitting there,.

    But that probably won't happen. The guys coming out are all good, but none look like DAY1 FQB. They could all use a year on the bench before being developed into something scary.

    So, after Macc and I have our weekly phone call, I will know better about which way he is leaning.

    One thing for sure, if there just no way to scratch out a day 1 FQB, then our next biggest need is Outside Pass Rusher. This position is almost a important to the D what a QB is to the O. And I think Macc likes what he sees in these young RBs tearing up the league.

    If all the QB, OLB, RBs are gone, it's way over due to use 2-3-4 high picks on OLine. Like what he did with Safeties last year.....Go stud lineman 1st 2nd 3rd pics.

    Edit: If macc lands him self a shiny new FCQ, I believe Bowles will be done. '

    But if Macc has to settle for best player (OLB, RB, Oline) he might just keep Bowles and his staff around for another year
     
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  4. statjeff22

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    Right, and if he doesn't want to be there he'll play the one year and then leave, and the team that traded for him gets nothing. I can't imagine any team trading for him unless a long-term deal was already in place, and I see little chance that Cousins would sign one with the Jets if a team like Denver was interested in him.
     
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  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Lamar Jackson’s accuracy stats are a major concern for me (54, 56, 60).

    If Rosen and Darnold are off the board and the Jets are up, I think they would go with Mayfield.

    As much as I prefer Rosen over Mayfield, you can’t ignore Mayfield’s staggering improvements, statistically speaking, year over year.
     
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  6. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Doesn’t work like that.

    It would be too late to fire Bowles immediately after the draft. No new coach would be able to get their stuff togoether by the time rookie camp comes around.

    They would have to let Bowles finish ‘18 with a veteran QB, let him go 5-11 again, and then let him go.
     
  7. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I’m not buying Watson until I see 2 more consistent years.
     
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    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    If your right, Darnold comes out and goes 1 , Rosen 2 to the Giants, we would trade up to 4, only to watch Indy trade down for a bunch of picks and which ever team leapfrogged us gets the QB. If we are going to trade up, it has to be with the Giants( not happening) if they aren't going QB or with Indy.
     
  9. hobgoblin

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    I've always been a proponent for drafting a QB but Cousins is still in the middle of what's normally a QB's prime (He'll be 30 next August). We've got talent at every level of defense, a surprisingly good group of WR's, and two solid RB's.

    Like you said we have a ton of cap room and 3 picks in the first two rounds. If we can find a pass rusher and sure up the O-line and secondary we're absolutely a playoff team with Cousins, possibly a contender depending on how things shape up.
     
  10. James Hasty

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    This team needs so much talent to catch up to the better teams in the league that I can't believe most of you guys are being so picky about which side of the ball or which position it comes from. Getting pro bowl talent out of our top pick is far more important than drafting a mediocre QB, etc.

    If we get the next Mangold, Revis, Toon, Martin, etc. we greatly improve and will have plenty of cap space and picks to fill in our holes elsewhere.
     
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  11. BomberJet

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    Very true but my opinion at the time was that Mac wouldn't draft him only because he already picked Hack a year before in the 2nd round. Mac passed on Watson but who knows what the real reason was. I admit to be surprised that Watson turned out to be better than I thought.

    But Jackson is no where near the same type of player that Watson is - he's better suited be a WR - areal mixed bag that have scouts scratching their heads as to what position he'll be best at in the NFL.
     
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    That's hilarious. If he did that for the Jets you'd be buying.
     
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    Cleveland is in a Superb position... If Dorsey really thinks highly enough of Mayfield he can trade the #1 pick for a Boatload & pick Mayfield @ #4... I have very little doubt he won't be there.... but of course Sucks for me... I Want Mayfield to be a Jet.
     
  14. GQMartin

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    He wouldn't have seen the field with Bowles. Remember O'Brien, the QB guru, picked Savage as his starter over Watson.

    Who's to say this guy isn't the next Robert Griffin? These guys succeed in the NFL early because they have no fear, but once the tapes add up, defenses get to them and they play scared.

    Build 3 solid years and then you are considered the real deal.

    Quote this back to me if the Jets ever get a FQB, they perform well year 1, and I'm posting something different than above.
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

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    Watson plays much more composed in the pocket. Same with Lamar Jackson. Don't trust those Baylor QBs (Art Briles age).
     
  16. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I should have clarified. I absolutely did not mean skill set or style of play, I meant the story....gets hurt...isn't the same again...out of the league within 5 years.

    I understand Watson plays more in the pocket which means his injury should play less of a factor, but again, once the defenses see more tape of him, the league will get "harder" for him.

    If he is legit, he will adjust with the adjustments made on him. Only time will tell if he can hang around, but I'm not willing to anoint him yet.
     
  17. BomberJet

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    That will never happen - you don't go firing the HC after all is said and done. If you believe Mac and the ownership are beneath that , I don't know why you think they would. Matter of fact that would be unprecedented for any franchise to do.
     
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    Article from Rich Cimini highlighting ways which Jets can move up in the draft

    http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-j...e-jets-can-make-a-late-leap-in-draft-position

    "After Sunday's action, the Jets (5-10) are in the eighth position. For draft purposes, they will be rooting for the Houston Texans (4-10) to upset the Pittsburgh Steelers on Monday night. The Texans' first pick, by the way, goes to the Cleveland Browns.

    It's mathematically impossible for the Jets to crack the top three, but they could make it to four if a lot of things fall into place. To make that giant leap, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-11), San Francisco 49ers (5-10) and Denver Broncos(5-10) probably would have to win in the final week."

    49ers play the rams, but the rams are resting Goff and a few others and with Jimmy G playing the way he has, 49ers will likely get a win here.

    Bucs play the Saints in Tampa - assuming no one rests, Saints will win.

    KC is playing at Denver - Mahomes is playing and against the broncos defense, it may be a rough outing for him.

    Hoping for a 49ers and Denver win may end up elevating the jets a bit.

    I don't know precisely how far up we could get with the above results, but I think we will likely be picking 5th or 6th


     
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  19. 101GangGreen101

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    Injury bug has been biting a lot of players as of late. Mariota and Carr have both regressed cause of it too. Right now, I am not questioning Lamar's durability, the workload he's taken at Louisville has been amazing. Watson, I hope he comes back stronger.
     
  20. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I just don't like Jackson's completion stats. I wouldn't be upset if the Jets took him, but I would be really weary.
     

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