Draft Is Full Of Minefields: QB-Needy Teams Galore

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  1. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Miami is looking for a QB. I do think Dallas might end up looking for one. Seriously, after all the heart warming statements over his injury reality still remains. Does anyone want to give Dak a huge contract now? I wouldn't.

    Trading Sewell is basically off the table. Miami doesn't need to trade with us. They know he will be there at 3.
     
  2. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    possibly yes. wentz is moving on. already been benched and requested a trade. the issue is they are 75 mil over the cap and getting rid of wentz adds another 25 mil to that. they are in serious cap hell.
    hurts has been pretty awful too. they just benched him for sudfield who was even worse. them having a young QB on a rookie deal and performing well could be the only thing that keeps them from being awful the next few years
     
  3. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I took a quick look at the '90s drafts. I had forgotten how few good QBs came out of college in the '90s. It really is shocking. Ozzie became the Browns' GM in '91. From the '91 draft through the '97 draft the only topnotch QB I saw in the first two rounds was Brett Favre in '92. Often times the first QB wasn't taken until the end of the 1st round or even halfway through the 2nd round. The rest were awful unless there was someone who was drafted in a lower round. In '98 things seemed to change. P. Manning and R. Leaf went 1-2 in the draft. In '99 Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, and Akili Smith went 1-3. As a result, Ozzie was forced to go with veterans or substandard QBs. It's possible that Douglas saw that the Ravens could win consistently without an elite QB, and be a playoff team, but he must have also seen how they only won 2 SBs and they were 12 years apart. Hopefully, he wouldn't be satisfied with replicating that, that isn't his goal.

    In Philadelphia, they never would have gotten to the SB with Foles. Wentz is who got them there.

    Surely Douglas has sen how the NFL is evolving to a more pass-centered offense, with the rules favoring the offense. If not, we're screwed.

    I sure hope that you're wrong, because if not, Douglas is not the right GM imo, and I will be done with the Jets.
     
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  4. Jets79

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    Yeah....the Ravens blueprint of great D, good run game and average QB template works only if the D and run game are GREAT. That’s the template the Rex built here, no surprise as he came from Baltimore. He got us close.

    but that is a really tough way to go about it and it still doesn’t yield consistent championships or even Suoerbowl appearances.

    and the rules keep going more and more in favor of passing attacks.

    in this NFL, the path to consistent Super Bowl contention is an elite QB
     
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  5. ColoradoContrails

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    I like your post, but I'm not "liking" it because I don't agree with your last line. My overriding desire is to see the Jets become consistent contenders. If Douglas can do that, even if I disagree with HOW he does it, I'm not going to bail. That said, if he follows a "Defense wins championship" recipe entirely, or he gets the results that are predictable: boring, low-offense games, and barely making the playoffs, then I will be done.
     
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  6. The Curse of Joe Namath

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    very unlikely they get a chance to pick this high again, same reason we will take a QB. If JD does his job right this offseason we won’t be in the running for a rookie QB. And trading up losing resources on a rebuilding team when you could’ve had your guy this year is just stupid.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing, isn't it?
     
  8. Sec124DieHard

    Sec124DieHard Well-Known Member

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    ONLY ??

    every team besides New England would sign up for that resume during that time.
     
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  9. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Fins selected Tua last year. Unlikely they will take a QB although if the right one falls they might well trade out of the pick.

    I think they are more likely to take Sewell if he falls to them.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The Eagles could trade Wentz post-June 1st and not take an enormous cap hit. My guess is the new HC will have some say in how this plays out.
     
  11. JetFan20

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    Justin Fields would probably help the running game more than any other player in this draft. I have no idea what kind of passer he will be at the next level, but his legs will immediately put pressure on defenses.
     
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    He looked REALLY shaky IMO. Like Mark Sanchez without the playoff victories.

    Greir and Flores have to ask if they want to go down with Tua with their jobs.
     
  13. Br4d

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    Most rookie QB's look shaky. Miami went 6-3 in his starts. They're not going to take a QB with the pick.
     
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  14. JetFan20

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    The Dolphins have done everything right post Gase, but that decision to draft to Tua over Herbert might get them all fired in two years. The Texans gave them a second shot if they want to take it.
     
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    If Tua looked that shaky, how has Sam looked the last three years?
     
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    CC this is a very good post, it actually ties in very well with JD scouting system. I do believe he values a good QB with a good arm, however I believe JD values a good team that is strong in all three phases.

    JD addressed the offense, by selecting Cameron Clark, Mims, Becton, Perrine who received no playing time with Gase as HC and Morgan a developmental QB.

    He then addressed the defense, Zuniga, Bryce Hall who is already developing into a really good CB, and Davis who was forced to start at safety early in his career.

    Last but not least ST, Mann is going to be a good punter I believe he got tired by end of the season.

    We are going to see the same thing this year, JD is trying to strengthen all three phases of this team, I believe Sam is our QB for one more year and that’s it.

    I believe JD will work on building the team period, so no matter if it’s Darnold, Zack Wilson, Morgan, Trey Lance, when the right QB is found the Jets will be a well built, balanced team that can make multiple playoff and SB runs.

    JD is not reaching for a QB and hoping they can carry the team while they are waiting for everything else to fall into place.

    SB winning teams are good in all 3 phases, that’s what he’s building.
     
  17. Donttasemebro

    Donttasemebro Well-Known Member

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    First round picks have to be as close to sure things as possible. In my opinion, if they Jets stay at 2 they're going to take Sewell.
     
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  18. chandler

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    this has been on my mind too. One can wonder for example what a mauler Becton would be on the right side. A running game goes a very long way to winning especially in this neck of the woods.

    That said, if they think Fields or some other QB is phenomenal and if they think we've already seen the best Sam has to offer then things may change...
     
  19. NCJetsfan

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    Yes, only. IMO a perennial playoff team should make more than two SBs in 15 year span, especially a team that was as well coached and had as much talent and stability as the Ravens. The reason they didn't was their QB position.
     
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  20. RochesterJet

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    I absolutely love the idea of keeping the #2 pick, drafting Sewell, Signing Trubisky, hiring Roman and drafting Trey Hill #29.

    Look at what Greg Roman has done with Kap, Tyrod and Lamar... I also liked what I saw out of Josh Adams and Ty Johnson near the end of the year. I'm very intrigued with that Brand of football. Mitch could be a diamond in the rough.
     
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