you have to figure that even if pouha walks, we will look in house to fill the NT position. Devito is more than capable, and it's only a matter of time before Ellis gets his shot. To draft a NT in the first round would be a major failure IMO, especially with pretty good first round depth at our positions of dire need (LB, OL, WR)
Pouha is going to leverage this opportunity into absolutely as much cash as he can and nobody should blame him for that. He's 33 and this is his last contract. I tend to agree I think he goes somewhere between 8 and 14 and I would not be surprised to see one of the 3-4 teams with an aging NT, like Pittsburgh, trade up for him.
Are you serious? Based on two measured combine drills he has elite D potential? Not to call anyone out but saying that based off a reps drill and a 40 time is ridiculous. Dewayne Robertson was a freak at the combine too...that never translated too much. Workout warriors? no thanks. If Poe was a top 2 DT before the combine I would be very interested after these numbers came in.
Poe is the true definition of a workout warrior. When you can't dominate CUSA with that kind of size and speed that is a huge red flag as far as I'm concerned. Forgetting about all that we have to resign Pouha and have a guy just like Poe that wedrafted in the 3rd round last year waiting in the wings. The best about his workout from a Jets perspective is it will probably put him in the top 15 now, which will drop someone down a spot. The more players we don't need in the top 15 the better.
correct. Ive seen ngata/wilfork thrown out for this kid, but flat out if he PLAYED like them then we wouldn't have needed the combinecto see those comparisons made. He, Cox, and Brockers are similar in that way. All three are getting pub for potential when they flat out were not as good as some other guys I'm this DT class.
Poe was seen as a late first/early second round pick on his potential before the combine. Soemone may have fallen in love with him inthe mid first, but its not as if he has shot from 5 round to top ten here. He was given a second-round grade by the NFL Advisory Committee before declairing for the draft. He is an excelent project at the nose, but he's a small school project. He is a great athleat but needs a lot of coaching to become effective. The Jets had a similar small school project with a first round grade on last year at nose and we drafted him in the third. Poe Won't last as long because he does not have the red flags that accompanied Ellis.
The only reason ESPN and NFL network started throwing those out is because they need something for ratings right now. It gets people excitied and talking much like the 40 time or the bench numbers.
You're absolutely right. And you have to keep in mind, it's only going to get worse now that the Combine is televised. Keep it in perspective. This kid played in Conference USA. His numbers shouldn't be framed in the same context as Wilfork or Ngata, who faced elite competition on a regular basis. -X-
I forgot your a better talent scout then a lot of draft experts. Just because we all witnessed a combine freak bust in Gholston right before our eyes doesn't mean we can call every workout warrior a bust. Experts don't throw out comparisons to Ngata for nothing. What player has a chance of making us an elite defense again, Upshaw or Poe? Upshaw might fill a bigger hole but Poe would make our line elite
Pow MAY make our line elite, in a couple years, if he learns to keep his pad level down and Gets better using his hands. He is not in any way, shape, or form ready to dominate inside the way Pouha did, let alone Ngata. He is a hell of an athleat, but lacks the Ideal arm lenght you look for in a DT. This puts him in a bad way while attempting to comand double teams or shead blocks and make plays. Along with his pad level problems, this shows up when you see him in game film and is a big reason why he did not do more against lesser competition. Don't reference the ESPN hype machine as experts. They are talking up prospects to get people to watch the draft. Go watch some of him playing or read some non baised reports on him.
Agreed excellent results at the combine do not guarantee he will bust, the suggestion that one ensures the other is silly. What I dont want is a DT with a second round grade at 16. Luxury pick for us and more of an unknown than a typical prsopect. He can run a sub 4.9 and I dont see how that makes him a more effective DT than if he ran a 5 flat and remained in the late first or second round. His speed is more than adequate for a DT. We're not talking a position that consistently runs great distances trying to keep up with skill players. Sub 5 is a bonus not a requirement in my opinion. You're.
Pretty sure we drafted a similar guy last year in the 3rd round. Not sure if everyone forgot about him or what...
